I do feel you on the engine-building cards feeling so drawn out in this day and age of MTG, but I do like Barrin's focus on a trigger that feels a bit underrepresented in the card space. And I do really love the new ways in which WotC is trying to get away from redundant "draw a card", "create a 1/1 token", "gain a life, lose a life" effects in new card designs. Notably, evergreen tokens like Clues, Treasure, and Blood go a long way to feed into other engine pieces that care about artifacts entering/leaving the battlefield or discarding cards to Blood. Effects of one engine piece bleeding into multiple other potential engine triggers makes assembling these components in a draft and in game a fun little puzzle.
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Oh, sure, the effect it triggers on makes for a cool deck, I just hate that the payoff is so big and clunky. 100% with you on that, and I agree that making clues would be super cool--tough maybe that would be a better Innistrad card? Some sort of detective that investigates when things are bounced?
I really like the Channeler as it fits into more than just tempo decks, while doing what Barrin and jellyfish do for those decks.
It also allows you to reset sagas and adventure creatures, bounce an Experimental Synthesizer or a The Meathook Massacre.
I'd look towards
As a replacement for the engine-like quality Barrin has.
It also allows you to reset sagas and adventure creatures, bounce an Experimental Synthesizer or a The Meathook Massacre.
I'd look towards
As a replacement for the engine-like quality Barrin has.
I don't think Barrin was ever good enough, frankly.
Tthe reduced U cost and broader range of targets is more than enough for Aether Channeler to replace Barrin, right?
Honestly, I think it's the fact that I don't want Man-'o-War to do anything except bounce a critter. The added blue isn't ideal, but sometimes you just want Shock instead of Galvanic Blast.
you are behind the times
I think it's the fact that he's a legendary character that people know, especially people who have been playing the game for a long time.
Man-o'-war is kind of like Venser in that it's one of those cards that used to be really good when the creature base of the average Cube was mostly expensive cards with no ETB abilities, but has gotten significantly worse over time as mana values have decreased and ETB value has increased. It's still good in lower power and slower environments, but it's more of a "Masters Set" Cube card now instead of a "Constructed-Like" Cube card (unless you're building a pre-Lorwyn Standard format power level Cube, I'd guess it's still good there.)
Brazen Borrower is kinda the new Manowar i guess
Fight With Fire no questionSo... which of the following Kicker cards shouts "wow, I want to cast that" the most to you?
(I might end up with Fight With Fire + one of the other two.)
Unless counters/prevention is a big deal (or you need it to be an instant). 12 mana is a lot though.
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I actually ended up cutting Fight with Fire because it ended games so consistently. I'm now on Burst Lightning and Roil Eruption as my two kicker burn spells.
It's worth noting that Fight with Fire is mainly a problem when you have a lot of ramp. I'm, weirdly enough, ramp-less (mostly because I want my ramp spells to cost one-and-a-half mana, no more and no less), and it's been a very fair way to reward Red decks for going long. But certainly if you have a ton of treasures and ramp lying around it'll close out games T5.
look i am a Timmy and i want to kill people with 10 damage to the face
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I know someone who cast Rite for lethal in a t8 Nationals match
i bet you know which card is more powerful… so which one sparks more joy?
4 lines of text with deceptive depth that rewards you for playing the game and goes in fast and slow UB decks vs 9 lines of text that just does exactly what it says and demands a grindy value oriented control deck? Don't get me wrong I love Vohar but Psychatog is just cooler.
Is it a massive downgrade if I run Haruspex instead of Reaper? It's both a human and a wizard and I often wish it had those two types.