Yeah that’s nice.
It’s such a minor difference unless you run blink. But it also feels weird that exile doesn’t prevent it from it’s triggered ability. It is one of the things exile is suppose to prevent.
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Yeah that’s nice.
It’s such a minor difference unless you run blink. But it also feels weird that exile doesn’t prevent it from it’s triggered ability. It is one of the things exile is suppose to prevent.
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I think you have them in order here of how interesting they are.
Which of these is your favorite?
Blitz feels great on Arena but is overly complex in paper, otherwise I'd have the Rhino in the top slot.
Exile already messes with graveyard synergies, so having the triggered ability be retained with exile feels like a positive to me. That’s why you need phasing.
But exile only messes with that if you run any sort of reanimator strategies.
Depends on the creature density of my deck. If Omenspeaker is going to turn on all the cheap removal my opponent is holding, then I'd rather have Mutation, but in a more balanced context, I might opt for the creature. Mutation obviously lets me handle bigger threats which is also valuable, but just as a stop-gap I'd probably opt for Omenspeaker.
Ok, I'm having an issue here. I think I can only play one of these:
Pros and Khans for each:
Kairi Pros:
–Always does something when it dies.
–Always has Ward.
–Hard for the opponent to trade up with on mana by more than
.
–Ok Reanimation Target
–Unique and Flavorful
Kairi Cons:
–Costs 6
–Dies trigger doesn't account for being countered or exiled
–Not a Particularly Well-Known card.
Iymrith Pros:
–Basically a second copy of Dragonlord Ojutai.
–Very hard to kill when it's not attacking.
–Not too expensive.
–Very good at refilling hands.
–Generally good in Esper Dragons
Iymrith Cons
–Character from Non-Magic IP.
––Has weird flavor as a result.
–Very easy to kill when attacking.
–Ojutai at Home.
–Poor reanimator target.
I think Iymrith has more cons, but I think it has slightly better pros? What do you all think? I only want to keep one.
Pros and Khans for each:
Kairi Pros:
–Always does something when it dies.
–Always has Ward.
–Hard for the opponent to trade up with on mana by more than
.–Ok Reanimation Target
–Unique and Flavorful
Kairi Cons:
–Costs 6
–Dies trigger doesn't account for being countered or exiled
–Not a Particularly Well-Known card.
Iymrith Pros:
–Basically a second copy of Dragonlord Ojutai.
–Very hard to kill when it's not attacking.
–Not too expensive.
–Very good at refilling hands.
–Generally good in Esper Dragons
Iymrith Cons
–Character from Non-Magic IP.
––Has weird flavor as a result.
–Very easy to kill when attacking.
–Ojutai at Home.
–Poor reanimator target.
I think Iymrith has more cons, but I think it has slightly better pros? What do you all think? I only want to keep one.
Onderzeeboot
Ecstatic Orb
As long as the 6 mana isn't a dealbreaker, Kairi every time!
i like the dragon that wants to attack
So... the 6 drop that can attack without going shields down or the 5 drop that draws cards when it damages a player?
Murktide Regent?
Unless you think all creatures are ‘shields down’ when they are attacking then I think they mean the 5 drop that benefits from attacking. Not trying to sound spikey but I admit it might come off as a little harsh.
Chris Taylor
Contributor
I mean with Immy the ward does actually go away if you attack (most of the time, don't @ me)
My vote is for Imlrith.
My vote is for Imlrith.
i meant imyrith, it draws cards when you swing, thats very dragony
Yes. Baneslayer Angel and Tarmogoyf also doesn’t have attacking ward.
So it has to be the D&D dragon they mean.
It's not that I think all creatures are shields down, most creatures just don't have shields in the first place! Outside of the limited scope of creatures with ward, hexproof, or protection abilities, most things are just kind of naked against opposing interaction. One of the reasons why the "mulldrifter good, baneslayer bad" meme emerged is because cards that provide immediate value tend to fair better against opposing removal, since you still will have gotten some value for playing it instead of a 4+ mana nothingburger.
This is one of the main reasons I like Siege Rhino so much: you're still mostly playing it for the body, but the ETB effect is good enough that you don't usually care too much if your opponent removes your creature. It's a very fine line most cards don't walk.
No no Spikey is perfectly fine in this context! My Cube has a very narrow power band, so if a card can't pull its weight, it's probably going to end up getting cut from a main deck 90% of the time. There are a lot of Blue cards I want to be playing, so I don't want to have the section full of sideboard warmers!
Spike is the only player type that matters
Careful, don't post that on r/EDH or you'll get canceled!