Article [MCD] Commander previews

[Rob Dennis]

skipping past AALLLLLL this weird content and saying that I have proxied up:

• toxic deluge
• unexpectedly absent
• ophiomancer
• sudden demise

and I expect the first 3 at least to be quite good

 

[Chris Taylor]

Mine:
Unexpectedly Absent
Curse of Shallow Graves
Toxic Deluge
Sudden Demise
Curse of Predation

Though the decks have some other sweet stuff for me:
Stronghold Assassin
Goblin Sharpshooter
Toxic Deluge
Karmic Guide
Mirror Entity
Control Magic

Strategic Planning

I like that there is actually a stronghold assassin with proper creature types now
The new sharpshooter art is sweet

 

[CML]

my god i love all these cards. they really went all-out on making an excellent product that has appeal for everyone here.

haven't gotten to play with deluge yet (only 3/5 of my cube was drafted last night) but the zombie curse is awesome

 

[Ryan]

People were playing Toxic Deluge at Eternal Weekend. That card is the real deal.

 

[Chris Taylor]

People were playing Toxic Deluge at Eternal Weekend. That card is the real deal.

Splashable wrath yo.

It seems quite balanced though, since it costs a pretty penny to cast

 

[Eric Chan]

Anyone tried Ophiomancer yet? Is it as annoying as it looks?

How about Sudden Demise? Better or worse than the other three mana sweeper options?

 

[Goldenpineapple]

Ophiomancer is annoying without being oppressive, but I cut toxic deluge after multiple balance-type games where one player could just not commit to the board and many-for-one their opponent for a few mana and life. The major difference between Sudden demise and the other sweeps you listed is your guys don't (usually) take the hit at all; I look at it as bonfire of the damned with the upside of not having to miracle it (a mechanic I detest) and the downside as it not hitting their face. Still too strong in my list.

 

[Jason Waddell]

Sudden Demise looks pretty baller for the Eldrazi Domain cube. Colors, x-spells, dodges spawn tokens, scalable. What's not to love?

 

[Eric Chan]

Ophiomancer is annoying without being oppressive, but I cut toxic deluge after multiple balance-type games where one player could just not commit to the board and many-for-one their opponent for a few mana and life. The major difference between Sudden demise and the other sweeps you listed is your guys don't (usually) take the hit at all; I look at it as bonfire of the damned with the upside of not having to miracle it (a mechanic I detest) and the downside as it not hitting their face. Still too strong in my list.

Do you have your list up anywhere, by any chance? It sounds like you're carefully monitoring the power level of the mass removal in your cube, and I'd love to see how that affects your overall cube composition.

Is Toxic Deluge much stronger than Damnation? I suppose paying 3 or 4 life to shave a mana off the casting cost of a global sweeper is a pretty big game, especially if that makes the card Legacy playable.

 

[FlowerSunRain]

Is Toxic Deluge much stronger than Damnation? I suppose paying 3 or 4 life to shave a mana off the casting cost of a global sweeper is a pretty big game, especially if that makes the card Legacy playable.

Also, do not forget the extremely relevant factor that if you have the creature(s) with the highest toughness, you get to keep it with Deluge, but not Damnation.

And the usually irrelevant factor that Deluge kills indestructible creatures.

 

[CML]

we were having trouble setting up deluge the other day. granted that deck had a lot of gravecrawlers, but i'd still be surprised if it were as strong as Damnation in my Cube.