Chris Taylor
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I like it a little more as 
with two abilities and no flash
with two abilities and no flash
General Print this Wizards! (So I can put it in my cube)
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Chris Taylor
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They're both sweet. We need more dudes like Zhur-Taa Druid.
Chris Taylor
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Thought:
Thoughtlasher
Creature - Elemental
When ~ enters the battlefield, target opponent reveals his or her hand. You choose a noncreature, nonland card from it. That player discards that card.
Evoke
2/1
It's probably too good, since duress is a sweet card already. Is there an alternate looky-discard spell we could have it emulate? I don't want it to be Despise
Maybe Addle? I have the 1CC version in my cube, but it might be better than duress...
Thoughtlasher
Creature - Elemental
When ~ enters the battlefield, target opponent reveals his or her hand. You choose a noncreature, nonland card from it. That player discards that card.
Evoke
2/1
It's probably too good, since duress is a sweet card already. Is there an alternate looky-discard spell we could have it emulate? I don't want it to be Despise
Maybe Addle? I have the 1CC version in my cube, but it might be better than duress...
How about:
Thoughtlasher
Creature - Elemental
When ~ enters the battlefield, choose a card type other than land. Target opponent reveals his or her hand. You choose a card with the chosen type from it. That player discards that card.
Evoke
2/1
Too much choice? I think the evoke is maybe too weak with it worded this way, but I'm in love with the idea of a 'called shot' discard spell that isn't Cabal Therapy.
I was going to print this monster in my cube but I think perhaps the world is not yet ready:
Rilcera's Interrogation
Sorcery
Name one of the following keywords: First strike, flying, haste, lifelink, trample, vigilance, regenerate, cycling, morph, shroud, or flash. Target opponent reveals his or her hand. You choose a nonland card from it. That player discards that card. If the chosen card has the chosen keyword in its rules text, that player discards another card.
I like that when you hit you still have a choice of taking another card. If you're an aggressive deck you might take their Supreme Verdict over the card you hit and one of their choice. What I don't like is the insane synergy with one mana discard spells, because if you cast a turn one Duress then this will (nearly) always hit T2 and just break your opponent's hand worse than a Hymn to Tourach.
Thoughtlasher
Creature - Elemental
When ~ enters the battlefield, choose a card type other than land. Target opponent reveals his or her hand. You choose a card with the chosen type from it. That player discards that card.
Evoke
2/1
Too much choice? I think the evoke is maybe too weak with it worded this way, but I'm in love with the idea of a 'called shot' discard spell that isn't Cabal Therapy.
I was going to print this monster in my cube but I think perhaps the world is not yet ready:
Rilcera's Interrogation
Sorcery
Name one of the following keywords: First strike, flying, haste, lifelink, trample, vigilance, regenerate, cycling, morph, shroud, or flash. Target opponent reveals his or her hand. You choose a nonland card from it. That player discards that card. If the chosen card has the chosen keyword in its rules text, that player discards another card.
I like that when you hit you still have a choice of taking another card. If you're an aggressive deck you might take their Supreme Verdict over the card you hit and one of their choice. What I don't like is the insane synergy with one mana discard spells, because if you cast a turn one Duress then this will (nearly) always hit T2 and just break your opponent's hand worse than a Hymn to Tourach.
Chris Taylor
Contributor
Cabal Therapy is a nice idea, but it works way better in smaller cubes (or constructed, the smallest enviornment of them all)
My god that discard spell
shame that 90% of the time it has to pick out a creature to get the extra benefit.
Other personal favorite:
Sophie's Choice
Target opponent reveals his or her hand. You choose a card from it. That player discards that card, or 2 other cards.
My god that discard spell
shame that 90% of the time it has to pick out a creature to get the extra benefit.
Other personal favorite:
Sophie's Choice
Target opponent reveals his or her hand. You choose a card from it. That player discards that card, or 2 other cards.
Sophie's Choice
Target opponent reveals his or her hand. You choose a card from it. That player discards that card, or 2 other cards.
Flavor fail. Choose two, they discard one.
Chris Taylor
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You know I think that makes the card way more awesome
Forgive me, I haven't seen the relevant material, and this was a mechanics first card
Forgive me, I haven't seen the relevant material, and this was a mechanics first card
Chris Taylor
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Combination KO!
Combination KO!
How do the rules work if the player only has one-card in hand?
Chris Taylor
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I'm okay with it getting their last card.
Didn't really like the indebetted until I read extort. Nice design!
Didn't really like the indebetted until I read extort. Nice design!
Chris Taylor
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I like it. I'm always on the lookout for higher impact white early drops, and I think he fits solidly
Chris Taylor
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Love the wording
I'm not sure it's that great though. How often is this guy just goblin piker?
Someone with experience running Gaddok Teeg answer this, coffee hasn't hit yet
I'm not sure it's that great though. How often is this guy just goblin piker?
Someone with experience running Gaddok Teeg answer this, coffee hasn't hit yet
I ran Gaddock Teeg for a long time but I never saw him in action all that much. I liked the card in theory, but people seemed unwilling to play it. They're much happier to cast Voice of Resurgence.
CML
Contributor
this thread is a black hole. soon i'm gonna start thinking wizards sucks at not only paying its advertisers (like LSV) and making a cube but also at designing THE CARDS THEMSELVES. and when that happens i dunno i might get a job or something.
so whenever i think about custom cards i think about the 720 that my otherwise smart friend has, which never fires because he has a religious devotion to stupid stuff like "singleton" or "720" and ends up getting cornholed by it (he is after all a gay republican). in a small cube this is less necessary -- certainly anything above 450 has to break singleton, print custom cards, or suck -- so then the question is where to fiddle with the cube. also i am not too much of a narcissist when it comes to card design so! as interesting as i find the custom cube from aintrazi(?) i prefer the established-genre stuff you guys are doing here. in fact i even remember said gay republican designing a nice cycle of wwk manlands that i will try to reproduce below:
izzet -- 1UR 2/4 switch p/t til EOT
boros -- RW 1/1 double strike
orzhov -- 1WB 2/1 flying lifelink
golgari -- 2BG 3/3 deathtouch
simic -- 1GU 2/1 ophidian
so in that vein! what kind of niches do your guys's cubes wanna fill? here's a brief brainstorm:
equipment that isn't a) {swords bskull jit clamp} b) horrible <----- this is the big one
enemy-color fixing
enchantments that are decent but not overpowering
black and blue aggro creatures
1-drops
2-drops that don't cost XX
3-drops in mono green
graveyard hate
functionally unique izzet cards
fatties
talk amongst yourselves
so whenever i think about custom cards i think about the 720 that my otherwise smart friend has, which never fires because he has a religious devotion to stupid stuff like "singleton" or "720" and ends up getting cornholed by it (he is after all a gay republican). in a small cube this is less necessary -- certainly anything above 450 has to break singleton, print custom cards, or suck -- so then the question is where to fiddle with the cube. also i am not too much of a narcissist when it comes to card design so! as interesting as i find the custom cube from aintrazi(?) i prefer the established-genre stuff you guys are doing here. in fact i even remember said gay republican designing a nice cycle of wwk manlands that i will try to reproduce below:
izzet -- 1UR 2/4
switch p/t til EOTboros -- RW 1/1 double strike
orzhov -- 1WB 2/1 flying lifelink
golgari -- 2BG 3/3 deathtouch
simic -- 1GU 2/1 ophidian
so in that vein! what kind of niches do your guys's cubes wanna fill? here's a brief brainstorm:
equipment that isn't a) {swords bskull jit clamp} b) horrible <----- this is the big one
enemy-color fixing
enchantments that are decent but not overpowering
black and blue aggro creatures
1-drops
2-drops that don't cost XX
3-drops in mono green
graveyard hate
functionally unique izzet cards
fatties
talk amongst yourselves
Chris Taylor
Contributor
this thread is a black hole. soon i'm gonna start thinking wizards sucks at not only paying its advertisers (like LSV) and making a cube but also at designing THE CARDS THEMSELVES. and when that happens i dunno i might get a job or something.
so whenever i think about custom cards i think about the 720 that my otherwise smart friend has, which never fires because he has a religious devotion to stupid stuff like "singleton" or "720" and ends up getting cornholed by it (he is after all a gay republican). in a small cube this is less necessary -- certainly anything above 450 has to break singleton, print custom cards, or suck -- so then the question is where to fiddle with the cube. also i am not too much of a narcissist when it comes to card design so! as interesting as i find the custom cube from aintrazi(?) i prefer the established-genre stuff you guys are doing here. in fact i even remember said gay republican designing a nice cycle of wwk manlands that i will try to reproduce below:
izzet -- 1UR 2/4
boros -- RW 1/1 double strike
orzhov -- 1WB 2/1 flying lifelink
golgari -- 2BG 3/3 deathtouch
simic -- 1GU 2/1 ophidian
so in that vein! what kind of niches do your guys's cubes wanna fill? here's a brief brainstorm:
equipment that isn't a) {swords bskull jit clamp} b) horrible <----- this is the big one
enemy-color fixing
enchantments that are decent but not overpowering
black and blue aggro creatures
1-drops
2-drops that don't cost XX
3-drops in mono green
graveyard hate
functionally unique izzet cards
fatties
talk amongst yourselves
So those are all WWK style manlands?Holy shit the simic one is insane! Basically any land that says "Draw a card" on it needs to cost a lot because it's so free.
Golgari one is okay, Orzhov one is okay, boros one is probably balanced in that it needs some support, and the Izzet one is straight aweful. even if it could be a 4/4 because damage stacked, it'd still be really mediocre.
Love all the custom card areas for improvement, stream of ideas to follow. I actually want something like another grafted wargear in my cube at the moment, but I think another wargear straight up might be too strong.
Bladed Gauntlets
Equipped creature gets +3/+1
Equip
These taken from Miasmir's cube. I'm probably implementing the haste one
Drakeshell
Equipped creature gets +3/+1 and gains flying
Living Weapon
Equip
Xenopouncer
Equipped creature gets +2/+1 and gains haste
Living Weapon
Equip
The 4 really is perfect here, just enough for the lategame to make Isaumaru relavant, but not enough that it's just into the web of war for 2 mana.
Personally I find it a bit sad that Blue/Black don't deserve Mistral Charger, so I made these:
Pouncing Horror
Flying when attacking
2/1
Spyhawk
Flying
Your opponents play with their hands revealed.
2/1
Ethreal Stalker
: ~ gains shadow permanently.: ~ Loses shadow permanently.2/1
Mindwarp Shambler
Pay 2 life: Rakdos Augermage's ability.
2/2
This guy came out of the discussion of lost multicolor potential, and is close to the submitted origional Jin, Master of Disruption (who just said 0: ability. Maybe once per turn. You know what mana cost Sire of Insanity is probably broken at? This one)
Restrained Famaliar
~ attacks each turn if able unless you pay 1
2/2
Ronin Vegabond
~ gets +1/+1 as long as you control a non-mountain land
1/1
Valliant Hermit
~ gains double strike as long as you control a plains
1/1
Elder Pariah
Unworthy (~ may not be the target of spells or abilities you control)
2/2
Song of the Wild
Sorcery
Put a 2/2 green wolf warrior onto the battlefield.
Chart the Unknown
Reveal cards from the top of your library until you reveal a basic land card. Put that card onto the battlefield tapped, and shuffle the rest of the card into your library.
Silent Judge
Artifacts and lands enter the battlefield taped
Vigilance
2/1
Angry Dude
Haste
He raged at the world, at his family, at his life, at his dog, at the tavern barkeep, at his cousin, at the blacksmith, at his vegetable garden...
2/1
Cunning Tracker
Bloodthirst 2
Creatures with power less than ~'s power can't block it.
1/1
Steward of Llanowar
T: add a
Vigilance
2/1
Studdervenom Snake
(Possibly //)Flash
When ~ enters the battlefield, counter target activated or triggered ability from a nonland source.
2/1
Elemental Outcast
Unworthy (~ may not be the target of spells or abilities you control)
4/4
Guardian of Llanowar
Affinity for basic lands
4/4
Colossal Stalker
Provoke
At the beginning of the end step, you may have ~ phase out
6/5
And the Bigguns:
Aiora, the wild Seer
Flying
Whenever a noncreature source deals damage to an opponent, you may draw a card
2/3
Spellweaving
Enchantment
Whenever you cast an instant or sorcery, you may reveal an instant or sorcery from your hand and pay it's mana cost. If you do, copy that card. You may cast the copy without paying it's mana cost.
Or alternitively:
instant and sorcery cards in your hand have splice onto instant or sorcery. The splice cost is equal to it's mana cost.
Chris Taylor
Contributor
My favorite fix: Landfall - Comes back.
It's a nice balance between rancor and moldervine cloak, and kinda goes on everything.
Cept' control magic
It's a nice balance between rancor and moldervine cloak, and kinda goes on everything.
Cept' control magic
*bashful joke about stealing my tech*These taken from Miasmir's cube. I'm probably implementing the haste one
Drakeshell
Equipped creature gets +3/+1 and gains flying
Living Weapon
Equip
Xenopouncer
Equipped creature gets +2/+1 and gains haste
Living Weapon
Equip
I dunno, I kind of like to have people pay more for their information than fringe benefit an on-curve aggro creature. Maybe "When ~ damages a player, that player reveals his or her hand"?Spyhawk
Flying
Your opponents play with their hands revealed.
2/1
I like the card but the bookkeeping seems odious.Ethreal Stalker
2/1
oh god. I think a huge number of the games in which this is played on turn 2 you just completely win the game. At least it's only as a sorcery.
These all look fine, though obviously strong. I think unworthy is more interesting from a design standpoint than it is in actual play. I have enough trouble getting my group to play equipment cards (that aren't, like, amazing) without including creatures that specifically discourage you from playing equipment.
This strikes me as probably slightly more fun to play against than Thalia just because of the symmetry? I think it's worth trying.Silent Judge
Artifacts and lands enter the battlefield taped
Vigilance
2/1
Oh god what. I dunno, I couldn't think of anything broken to do with it outside of Phyrexian Dreadnought so it's probably a fun cube card.Studdervenom Snake
Flash
When ~ enters the battlefield, counter target activated or triggered ability from a nonland source.
2/1
I've thought about that second ability for my cube but I don't want to have to explain phasing to new players. Your mileage.
Okay so these are both rad and need to be tested. I really like that Spellweaving casts copies instead of splicing, because it makes you less vulnerable to counterspells and allows you to multitrigger Talrand. Also love that Aiora helps cards like Staggershock that are already great by making their worst-case much, much better. The Pestilence synergy sounds completely busted though.Aiora, the wild Seer
Flying
Whenever a noncreature source deals damage to an opponent, you may draw a card
2/3
Spellweaving
Enchantment
Whenever you cast an instant or sorcery, you may reveal an instant or sorcery from your hand and pay it's mana cost. If you do, copy that card. You may cast the copy without paying it's mana cost.