Chris Taylor
Contributor
If I had to fix Barrage I'd let it activate for a colourless, but I'm just gonna try it
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How insane would it be to play with Rare-B-Gone in Cube?
Onderzeeboot
Ecstatic Orb
Extremely bad... in pauper and peasant cubes
Anyway, it's pretty swingy, especially in cubes with a lot of different rarities. Remember it hits lands as well! Ewww...
Assuming it hits mythics as well, it hits about half of my cube. It does throw up issues like cards which are rare in some printings and not others, particularly stuff from From the Vault which are all classed as mythic. It feels like it wouldn't be too much different from something like Balance or Death Cloud, and it makes for a really weird sort of build around deck. I think I'm going to try it out but I wouldn't be too surprised if it didn't stick around for long.
You can google up maro's answer to the question circa 2009- "mythic rares are rares."
Like Onder said, it's real swingy, but black/red decks don't really have an unfair finisher like geddon or upheaval. If you're ok with that level of blowout it's actually pretty cool- red/black decks are typically a ton of non-rares compared to other archetypes.
Random anecdote: not too long ago in Vintage, people started sideboarding City in a Bottle against dredge decks because it knocked out Bazaar of Baghdad and City of Brass--if it was right version of City of Brass. All the pros sported 4th edition.
Chris Taylor
Contributor
I'd caution against rare b gone. I found it typically killed each creature I didn't control and 1-3 lands, all while mostly mind twisting them. bit much
Chris Taylor
Contributor
When you draft it
so, anybody got experience with this? I feel like the fact that it doesn't hit players kinda lets it down a bit, but then again it probably does some serious work with your opponents board state together with a hordeling outburst
so, anybody got experience with this? I feel like the fact that it doesn't hit players kinda lets it down a bit, but then again it probably does some serious work with your opponents board state together with a hordeling outburst
It seems extremely comparible to this ISIS bomber fanatic I know. I really dislike that it deals damage back to you, cuz half the time it means it'll be impersonating Avenging Arrow but with slightly more conditions. Could be alright, but I doubt it.
Grillo_Parlante
Contributor
His ceiling is much higher than other pingers--complete board control--however, his low point is being a 2cc pinger that only effects the board. If your environment can support that he is a fine addition to a red based aggro-control strategy.
I would say he would probably be poisonous in your cube.
I would say he would probably be poisonous in your cube.
CML
Contributor
From a design perspective I like it (and Timberwatch Elf) a lot in pauper or peasant or, who knows, maybe even lower-powered normal environments
I've seen this crop up in random threads but never actually got around to testing it. How does it play / draft? Too sloppy for aggro so control just wheels it? I've always liked the idea behind timely reinforcements but six life is like... a million.
looks like a situational 3 mana raise the alarm
i like raise the alarm and gather the townsfolk for an early play filler thats not a wall
secure the wastes isnt too bad in testing. kind of a tempt with vengeance
trying out eldrazi and worldspine wurm
anyone like green cheat?
i didnt like channel or oath of druids in unpowered
maybe these are a little more fair
should be fun with all the brainstorms
rocks:
palladium myr
thran dynamo
gilded lotus
i like raise the alarm and gather the townsfolk for an early play filler thats not a wall
secure the wastes isnt too bad in testing. kind of a tempt with vengeance
trying out eldrazi and worldspine wurm
anyone like green cheat?
i didnt like channel or oath of druids in unpowered
maybe these are a little more fair
should be fun with all the brainstorms
rocks:
palladium myr
thran dynamo
gilded lotus
Chris Taylor
Contributor
It does make 3 tokens, but I'd much rather secure for the flexibility
Speaking of tokens and me trying to preemptively neuter some cards I'm adding in a new batch together with a desire to give red more clever cards as well as interesting 3-drops, is this a good pinger then? Electrode has been performing really well the games I've played with and against it, so having a mono colored slightly weaker version should be pretty alright?
Yup. That's a good one. Gelectrode is my favorite, followed by Goblin Sharpshooter. Sparkmage would be the next choice for me.
Onderzeeboot
Ecstatic Orb
Grim Lavamancer is also a pretty decent pinger
It's a shame we didn't get a pinger with Dash and non-zero power this block. That would've been awesome.
(i still love you, vithian stinger, even if nobody else does)
(i still love you, vithian stinger, even if nobody else does)
I ran one for years. I don't think anybody cast him.