FlowerSunRain
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The trigger exiles her, so its no different then getting stped.
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- Thread starter Dom Harvey
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The only thing I'll say on the black creature clause is that the most abusable effects are attached to bodies (and by abusable I mean most easily reused). And the best of those all have the clause. Nekrataal, Bone shredder, and Shriekmaw. So I think it's relevant from the standpoint of considering how resilient a creature is to removal, regardless of whether you intentionally try and push that mechanic or not. It's already there in most cubes.
Grillo_Parlante
Contributor
Speaking of bone shredder, anyone have good results yet with collected company?
With most of us deliberately pushing curves down to 3, and cube being a creature-centric environment, I think it should have a home somewhere.
With most of us deliberately pushing curves down to 3, and cube being a creature-centric environment, I think it should have a home somewhere.
Collected Company would be a sweet play in your cube following a Congregation at Dawn. I'll take combos for $1000 Alex.
Plays nice with any kind of top of library manipulation. Any of the 1 mana tutors, Sylvan Library, top, etc.
Now to play devil's advocate. Best case scenario, it's 4 mana for 2 3 drops - good value for sure (especially at instant speed). But you either have to get super lucky or set that play up with other cards. Is that worth a slot in your cube? More importantly, the 4 CC slot in your green section (which I think is stacked)? For me, the answer is a resounding no. And cards like this are usually attractive to me.
Plays nice with any kind of top of library manipulation. Any of the 1 mana tutors, Sylvan Library, top, etc.
Now to play devil's advocate. Best case scenario, it's 4 mana for 2 3 drops - good value for sure (especially at instant speed). But you either have to get super lucky or set that play up with other cards. Is that worth a slot in your cube? More importantly, the 4 CC slot in your green section (which I think is stacked)? For me, the answer is a resounding no. And cards like this are usually attractive to me.
Onderzeeboot
Ecstatic Orb
I don't think I want to overload on tutors, and there are simply better / more interesting ones out there imho (for cube at least). I don't even have room for all of these:
Is this garbage? It's garbage, isn't it?
EDIT: I'm mainly tempted by the +1/+1 counters, but the vigilance is also plenty tasty.
I remember playing the green one with a certain ooze. Bonfire me out of this FNM! I dare you.
What cards do you reckon people would stick the ring onto though? Probably a good measure if it's worth it u yeah?
What cards do you reckon people would stick the ring onto though? Probably a good measure if it's worth it u yeah?
Interesting? Good? OP?
Are you just trying to set me up for a bad joke?
Onderzeeboot
Ecstatic Orb
Come on, you know you want to!
Dom Harvey
Contributor
Weaver? I hardly know it!
Laz
Developer
Whenever I see the standard 'I 'ardly knew her' from you Jason I assume that it is because you have just arrived home after a night out.
this card takes a lot of zen lol
I love think twice. Let's control decks do stuff in the early game and helps with prowess
How bonkers is this?
Even in my list that has more graveyard shenanigans going than the average cube, Ravings never did what you wanted. Reanimator? Whoops, sorry, discarded your Makeshift Mannequin instead of your Woodfall Primus. There are plenty of reliable ways to loot, and plenty of other good ways to draw; Ravings is an awkward hybrid that doesn't do either well.
I've come around to Jason's original suggestion for a utility Izzet spell, that even loots in a pinch
Izz Charm is definitely better, though I'd like to see the mono blue version of Ravings to compare to Think Twice (which hasn't been impressive for me in a long time).
That black 4... How big does it have to be to make up for the fact that it's basically vanilla? I guess it'll do a decent impression of Ghoultree, but who actually plays that?
That black 4... How big does it have to be to make up for the fact that it's basically vanilla? I guess it'll do a decent impression of Ghoultree, but who actually plays that?
did you cube ravings when delve and prowess were the new big thingEven in my list that has more graveyard shenanigans going than the average cube, Ravings never did what you wanted. Reanimator? Whoops, sorry, discarded your Makeshift Mannequin instead of your Woodfall Primus. There are plenty of reliable ways to loot, and plenty of other good ways to draw; Ravings is an awkward hybrid that doesn't do either well.
I've come around to Jason's original suggestion for a utility Izzet spell, that even loots in a pinch
Grillo_Parlante
Contributor
How bonkers is this?
You're better off with:
They either do the same thing better, have some form of evasion, or don't take a card slot.
I figured the "any card" + mill effect would be more useful than those. I had considered Mortivore (the rest kind of bore me except for Nighthowler, which is cute, at least), but the "creature" clause and double-black scared me off. Is the Regenerate effect, creature-counting clause, and double black cost worth a 4-drop slot? Currently, I try to keep about 70% of my cube CMC less than three, so 4+ drops are hard to pick.