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Wow, patten of rebirth is just a splashable better natural order if you have a sac outlet?
I think that's a little glib, it's way easier to mess with someone's pattern than mess with someone's order. (Or way easier to play around someone's open mana with order).
 
Hmmm, Oath seems decidedly non-broken in Cube. I could test it. Worst case you get like a T3 or 4 Grave Titan, and then they Oath you back...

Someone on that other site that shall not be named has a storm/combo cube where he uses this card to great effect. He keeps teasing a storm primer (how to get it to work in cube without being poisonous), but said article has not yet appeared. Assuming he has a cool take on it, I might try it simply because combo is different and tickles my inner Johnny.

Even outside combo, reanimator would love Oath I'm thinking. As long as you are putting bigger dudes into play, it seems worth a card. Imagine if you ran stupid shit like Eldrazi. Put whatever you want in play off my Oath, not going to matter much when you are eating annihilator 4 every turn. Extreme example, but this card is certainly breakable in the right deck. Even if you just get a couple mana elves off of it, that still feels worth 2 mana and a card.
 

Chris Taylor

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Someone on that other site that shall not be named has a storm/combo cube where he uses this card to great effect. He keeps teasing a storm primer (how to get it to work in cube without being poisonous), but said article has not yet appeared. Assuming he has a cool take on it, I might try it simply because combo is different and tickles my inner Johnny.

Even outside combo, reanimator would love Oath I'm thinking. As long as you are putting bigger dudes into play, it seems worth a card. Imagine if you ran stupid shit like Eldrazi. Put whatever you want in play off my Oath, not going to matter much when you are eating annihilator 4 every turn. Extreme example, but this card is certainly breakable in the right deck. Even if you just get a couple mana elves off of it, that still feels worth 2 mana and a card.

Everything other than sower of temptation :p
 
My cube is dumb and clunky/combo-y but I ended up cutting
Oath because of how much of a non game it gives Aggro. "Oh, turn two oath? I guess I don't play creatures anymore."

I realize it's not as simple as that, but my players half of whom love Aggro were strongly opposed to keeping it in.
 

Chris Taylor

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My cube is dumb and clunky/combo-y but I ended up cutting
Oath because of how much of a non game it gives Aggro. "Oh, turn two oath? I guess I don't play creatures anymore."

I realize it's not as simple as that, but my players half of whom love Aggro were strongly opposed to keeping it in.

always a solid reason to cut something. IIRC oath had this effect on standard at the time, so they're probably not wrong
 

Jason Waddell

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Uh, I mean, I also watched the CalebD video but I've never played with it myself. I doubt many of us have tested it, much less in a cube context.
 

Too slow in faster cubes but pretty good in more midrangy meta's. What I like about it is that it gives your aggressive deck a CA engine for when things don't go as planned and the game lingers. It's vulnerable to removal and only conditionally awesome, but when it works it wins games.
 

Grillo_Parlante

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Would he be enough of an incentive to push someone into a B/W deck with gravecrawlers?

I'm imagining him as a midgame engine for an aggressive W/G humans deck, or as part of a value package in a B/W gravecrawler deck.
 

Jason Waddell

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Would he be enough of an incentive to push someone into a B/W deck with gravecrawlers?

I'm imagining him as a midgame engine for an aggressive W/G humans deck, or as part of a value package in a B/W gravecrawler deck.

I've seen it work but generally if you're recurring crawlers you're doing alright for yourself.
 

CML

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I've seen it work but generally if you're recurring crawlers you're doing alright for yourself.


you never really have time to pay the 1, until you do. basically mentor was unbeatable when not removed in ISD draft and does nothing in our mana constrained environments so i'm thinking an environment that's slightly lower power level, a little freer with mana, would be a great fit for him and cards like him.
 

Jason Waddell

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