Prolifer-land. I want to add this to my cube.
RampWalker
Teferi!
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Prolifer-land. I want to add this to my cube.
RampWalker
Teferi!
This confirms the Russian Facebook spoilers.
Also there will be no need for a custom Simic proliferate land anymore with Karn’s Bastion.
Also there will be no need for a custom Simic proliferate land anymore with Karn’s Bastion.
Onderzeeboot
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Oh man, Kiora looks so cool! I... How... I DON'T CUBE 
CARDS! At first I was like, it's okay, I still love you Mystic Snake. I'm not missing much else. Then they printed Tatyova, Benthic Druid, and I was like: "NOOOOOO!" And now this? Come on Wizards! Quit luring me into having to do a gigantic overhaul again!
Both the land and Teferi are sick by the way.
CARDS! At first I was like, it's okay, I still love you Mystic Snake. I'm not missing much else. Then they printed Tatyova, Benthic Druid, and I was like: "NOOOOOO!" And now this? Come on Wizards! Quit luring me into having to do a gigantic overhaul again! Both the land and Teferi are sick by the way.
Onderzeeboot
Ecstatic Orb
No idea if this is legit. This just popped up on mtgs.
That's pretty cool! Exiles Niv-Mizzet and protects against Expansion // Explosion
That's pretty cool! Exiles Niv-Mizzet and protects against Expansion // Explosion
Oh man, Kiora looks so cool! I... How... I DON'T CUBE
She wouldn't take up a multicolor slot for me, so I dont see why you can't run her, even without a Simic section
I'm really excited to see them return to Prowess-like abilities, like the one below and the Flux Channeler somewhere above.
Onderzeeboot
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Because I do run, for example, a Gruul section, and including a Simic card, even if it is hybrid, will be confusing for drafters. Also, it would really, really stick out like a sore thumb.She wouldn't take up a multicolor slot for me, so I dont see why you can't run her, even without a Simic section
Chris Taylor
Contributor
Ignore bootman his colors are weird
Prolifer-land. I want to add this to my cube.
I found the most Riptidey card in the set.
Yeah okay, I know all about not wanting one-ofs that don't fit in, so I get why you dislike the idea.
There has probably been lots of discussions on these forums on where to put hybrids. I just see
as so distant from that I wouldn't consider my multicolor-section at all, when figuring out if I should run the card, or while I was drafting it Not saying you shouldn't consider it, just saying I came at it from a different angle
The hybrid mana signals Simic to me even if it's functionally no different from being 2G or 2U. It implys a pairing and theme that should exist...like seeing a Tattermunge Maniac would lead you to assume gruul aggro is a supported archetype.
I do not think a hybrid card signals that the multicolored Guild is part of the cube. That is merely the players reaching a wrong conclusion because their logic fails. Nothing in a Simic hybrid cards points toward Simic being open/in the cube.
Maybe it is the two-colored frame that can confuse some people.
Edit: Onde I would go all in on that Kiora if I were you.
Maybe it is the two-colored frame that can confuse some people.
Edit: Onde I would go all in on that Kiora if I were you.
Someone interpreting a hyrbid card to be a signal of a supported guild, especially a card like the above Kiora that appears to outline some sort of archetype, isn't failed logic. The simple fact that the mana symbols being included together reflects a positive relationship between the colors. Single hybrid costed cards are easier to cast than mono-colored cards in their respective guild. Kiora is easier to cast in a simic deck than a gruul or azorius deck. The benefit, while negligible, is present. Syndic of Tithes implies a positive association between white and black, because the ability is far superior in Orzhov than Selesnya. All that's to say, it makes sense to me to omit it to avoid wires being crossed.
That said, I'd consider a card like Snakeform to be less of a signal as it is a generic value card that doesn't imply an archetype. In my opinion, it still wouldn't be the most elegant inclusion if the guild wasn't supported, but that's more subjective.
There are obviously exceptions to any rule and logic. If we suddenly start looking at the card text on the card then we can derive such an exception. Because the card text creates an exception. The topic at hand is the hybrid mana cost and that does not signal a multicolored Guild being supported in the cube. Objectively speaking. Some people might read those signals wrong like any cuber can fail to read signals during the drafting about what colors are open etc.
One for Orzhov Aristocrats perhaps.
One for Orzhov Aristocrats perhaps.
Onderzeeboot
Ecstatic Orb
It's a green blue card, and that's what people will see at first glance. You can't reason the colors away, even if it's easier to cast than a regular gold spell
It's a green blue card, and that's what people will see at first glance. You can't reason the colors away, even if it's easier to cast than a regular gold spell
Don’t be confused by the green-blue frame. What matters is the requirements to cast the card and not which colors the frame has.
Chris Taylor
Contributor
I think I prefer enigma drake to invade. Flying is a big deal, and I imagine you're more likely to play instants and sorcerers after drake (which wouldn't grow invade token) rather than have cards exiled (which would be better for invade token)
I do like honor though. The fact that it's tormenting voice and not just rummaging is interesting
Also this card is interesting:
Given a decent ammount of mana, all your draws are now A) creatures and B) pick of the litter among them.
A raven, a panther, a wolf. I don't think there's any meaning to it.
Also, that Kiora is awesome.
Also, that Kiora is awesome.
This is probably the best 3-mana walker in 3 years. It:
-Draws you creatures (regardless of wether or not you control the walker).
-Lets your green deck play creatures before the block step and/or end step of your opponent's turn.
-Gives your big bois vigilance and reach.
Very exciting!
But that's easy for us to say, who think about cube and design every now and then. For a lot of the players that draft our cubes, they have a much more visceral experience. "Oh, this looks like a simic card" as the common first impression among our drafters isn't that far of a stretch, is it?
Well, Demonic Pact likes this. And Otherworldly Journey was always really solid already, with the enemy targeting mode rarely being used.
http://mythicspoiler.com/war/cards/teferistimetwist.jpg
http://mythicspoiler.com/war/cards/teferistimetwist.jpg
Chris Taylor
Contributor
This isn't a bad discard spell if you can guard it.
Sure. And that is when the logic fails as I initially said.
Yes, but it has a real effect on how our drafters actually draft! It isn't just some kind of curiosity, there's going to be an actual tangible relationship to what kind of draft experience people will have.
This isn't a bad discard spell if you can guard it.
I kinda like these new walkers! They feel like more of a build around than pure value pumps, and this guy seems to go sort of into a racks-deck?