General Fight Club

[ahadabans]

Doomed Traveler is great. I agree. Boros Elite should be strong if you can trigger batalion consistently (i.e. in removal light environments). So it depends how much removal you run I think. Could be wrong though.

 

[anotak]

boros elite is really good or really bad with no middle ground so small sample sizes lead to not seeing the mean

 

[Diakonov]

 

[Suicufnoc]

 

[anotak]

that looks like one of my bad ideas

A+

 

[ahadabans]

LOL That thing needs a shorter name.

Although Wordmail is fucking awesome with it. 6/6 for 3 anyone?

 

[Laz]

vs.

Ghoultree does have a relevant creature type for the sorts of decks which are keen on filling their yard, but asks so much more up front. 10/10 is indeed huge...

 

[Grillo_Parlante]

lol, as one of the few people that has had to actually make that choice....I went with ghoultree. The single green in the CC combined with the better creature type made the difference. You have to have something sweet to combo with undead alchemist after all.

However, in a less graveyard focused cube, I could see nemisis being correct, as the lower CC makes naturally casting it more reasonable.

 

[GenericZero]

vs.

Ghoultree does have a relevant creature type for the sorts of decks which are keen on filling their yard, but asks so much more up front. 10/10 is indeed huge...

Nemesis of Mortals looks and feels cooler, but Ghoultree does the job so much better...

 

[Lucre]

It's too bad threshold and delve get along so poorly...

 

[Grillo_Parlante]

 

[Onderzeeboot]

Devil's Play, because it's infinitely more flexible.

 

[Lucre]

Man I totally missed the boat on that one.
One spell that is worth 10-12 damage seems terrifying.

 

[GenericZero]

vs

IMO: Spikeshot Elder and it's not even that close.

(shots fired)

 

[Jason Waddell]

vs

IMO: Spikeshot Elder and it's not even that close.

(shots fired)

Uh.......

 

[anotak]

we cant be friends anymore

 

[CML]

vs

IMO: Spikeshot Elder and it's not even that close.

(shots fired)

you are not wrong in the typical cube

 

[Jason Waddell]

Spikeshot was so bad it had to be cut here. I don't see myself ever cutting Lavamancer.

 

[Onderzeeboot]

vs

IMO: Spikeshot Elder and it's not even that close.

(shots fired)

Yeah, I might want to swap out the Lavamancer now that I'm doubling up on Bonesplitter

 

[Grillo_Parlante]

My vote is for lavamancer. Even in the old cube, the 1RR activation on spikeshot was asking too much.

Plus grim's art is much better.

 

[Dom Harvey]

Play Lavamancer with the Torment art, play Spikeshot Elder too (it's got a lot better with Bestow if that's your thing)

 

[FlowerSunRain]

I can't see myself cutting either card. Lavamancer is just a perfectly designed card and Spikeshot is amazingly fun with the Heroic theme.

In a typical cube list though, Lavamancer is the better card.

 

[GenericZero]

Spikeshot Elder carries auras and equipments fantastically. Grim Lavamancer does not. Spikeshot Elder can become a mana sink. Grim Lavamancer can not. Spikeshot Elder will go into the red zone AND poke 'em for you. Grim Lavamancer will not. Spikeshot Elder wants to be friends with all your anthems, silverhearts, pump spells, and +1/+1 counter distributors. Grim Lavamancer cares not for such things. Sure, Grim Lavamancer will give you a SEEMINGLY better offer upfront. But in the longrun it will always pay off to invest in an old goblin.

Vote Spikeshot Elder 2016

 

[CML]

Spikeshot was so bad it had to be cut here. I don't see myself ever cutting Lavamancer.

we do not have typical cubes!

now that dom mentions it i'm gonna try ol spikey again with them bestow guys

 

[GenericZero]

Is anyone up for some good Fiht Club discussions anymore or is this thread dead?

We should probably have an archive for dead threads....(so they're easier to find for reference?)