Can somebody compute this please?
General The Cube Contest
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Laz
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There is actually a lot more differences than one would expect, though many aren't meaningful, i.e Savannah Lions over Isamaru. There are also a lot of divergences to accommodate many of the horrific inclusions.
EDIT: Bear in mind the MTGO Legacy Cube list is 600 cards. Not sure if that is right, or I found the wrong cube on cubetutor.
Hey there lab rats, longtime lurker here.
I share your disappointment with the selected entries (though the idea for the Twisted Cube is not that different from my submission), and was wondering if everyone here who joined would share their list, preferably in one place? I was really looking forward to seeing some cool submissions and getting some ideas for my present and future Cubes.
I share your disappointment with the selected entries (though the idea for the Twisted Cube is not that different from my submission), and was wondering if everyone here who joined would share their list, preferably in one place? I was really looking forward to seeing some cool submissions and getting some ideas for my present and future Cubes.
This is almost enough to make a man cry.
RIP Legendary cube. You died too young and taught WotC all the wrong lessons.
I wonder if I prefer the Legendary cube to all of the finalists. At a glance, I definitely prefer it to the PT cube.
Now, I *really* want to play my Eldrazi Domain deck from the forum draft. Got caught up in contest hype and didn't appreciate what I already have!
We can still do this. Also, starting tomorrow, James is staying at my place for a few nights. Cube content time?
214/540 which is ~40% overlap.
My least favourite aspect of cube design is when the designers go too deep on archetypes and the cube is basically several prebuilt decks shuffled together and the drafting process is putting those 10 decks back together, but I never expected it to be so literal.
Onderzeeboot
Ecstatic Orb
I won't have mtgo access until Friday eurotime. Lmk when works for you!
Hey, just so you know I bear the finalists absolutely zero ill will. And to be fair, your list looks like the most polished with actual play testing behind it, and looks like it'd be actually fun to play instead of a goofy theme excersize that drives me nuts.
I'm just upset at WotC. I got really, really excited for this contest as a way for the community to show off their design chops. I didn't expect to win, but I did expect to see some interesting and innovative lists to at the very least steal some ideas from. Instead it looks like WotC handed the whole contest off to one mid-level guy with little developer experience and he largely went off of names he recognized. It feels like a betrayal of trust.
Maybe a "thinking outside the fube" piece is the best way to approach the topic.
Also, terminus, good luck! Would love to see a big post on your cube in the blogs sub forum.
Welcome! Your avatar is dope.
Grillo_Parlante
Contributor
Do you have any CT lists? I would like to draft your 360 too. I'm hoping you win as you seem to have put the most care in your submission.
Chris Taylor
Contributor
Maybe this is their way of illustrating how integral they are to magic's success. If fans were in charge limited would look like this drivel, arent you glad things aren't like that?
But the issue with that, is that there are fans who have spent a large amount of time and effort carefully curating draft environments (ie. peeps on this site, and probably elsewhere). So the disappointment stems not from "wow there were no good entries because fans suck" but from "wow the entires they selected weren't good because we know some entries didn't suck"
Chris Taylor
Contributor
Yeah it looks like that to us, but to non cube magic people?
I will say this much: probably their curation process was awful. I delayed announcing a winner to my cube contest once because looking through a bunch of lists is just miserable.
did you know that you own a website, where you are technically also the editor & publisher
Yeah, properly going through a cube list and evaluating if it's good or just average takes at least an hour. A proper curation would have been a full time job for a few people over the last weeks, if it happened, and I doubt much it did.
I wonder if the famous people were favored in some way when prioritizing what lists to look at, which seems super likely considering the finalists.
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Chris Taylor
Contributor
And I mean hey, it's certainly worth giving andy a ring about. If we're this mad, other people are probably at least curious what the cube community thinks about it, and sperling's gotten away with much more scathing articles.
Worst case if you're worried about continued employment at channel fireball, get CML to run it
Worst case if you're worried about continued employment at channel fireball, get CML to run it
i checked out mtg sally's thread about the finalists and here are their reactions, btw:
-wtwlf is, ell oh ell, praising the design of Klug's PT Cube and saying he did something similar. "By far my favorite submission...[it's] fun to draft and has a lot of historical significance to it. Newer players can draft decks within the cube and then research the decks they came from, finding out more about the history of Magic, its players and the decks that made Magic history" (i for one sure value this over replayability ahahaha)
-nobody else likes the PT Cube
-the contest feels like a sham slash popularity contest
-the lists submitted by the pros should not have become finalists and likely wouldn't have in a blind selection process
-wtwlf is, ell oh ell, praising the design of Klug's PT Cube and saying he did something similar. "By far my favorite submission...[it's] fun to draft and has a lot of historical significance to it. Newer players can draft decks within the cube and then research the decks they came from, finding out more about the history of Magic, its players and the decks that made Magic history" (i for one sure value this over replayability ahahaha)
-nobody else likes the PT Cube
-the contest feels like a sham slash popularity contest
-the lists submitted by the pros should not have become finalists and likely wouldn't have in a blind selection process