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It's quite literally a (single activation of) bazaar of baghdad on wheels, so I guess decks that want to dredge a lot or otherwise do things out of the graveyard would like it?

I wasn't so sure about Hope, but I think you've warmed me up to it. Getting some more techy counter plays in aggro seems fun too, since you really need to speculate in when to pop Hope to stave off a removal or sweeper spell.

Oh wow, that looks incredible!

I really like how foretell allows for having multiple spells during a "showdown turn" where both players try to out-counterspell each other, but that seems more like a constructed thing than limited unfortunately. I've warmed up to the mechanic.

I guess this depends on how frequent it should be among drafters, since a theme could be "aggro" which is pretty general or "Equipment and aura boros" which is a little more specific. Ultimately this should end up in a persons deck, which means 23 playables usually. Not all 23 need to belong to...

Hmm I suppose so. Four mana is a lot, but I know people have mentioned liking dictate of Heliod which I guess this is a techier mini version of?

Don't underestimate the value of repeatedly producing more bodies! Especially since you can play a removal spell then activate this a few times, to get 2-3 tokens that you can equip or play pumps on or w/e. It let's you make sure you use your mana.

Isn't this a question for the "looking for a card" thread? You've unwittingly entered them into the arena! Three enter, one leaves! I pick usher of the fallen.

Having played against it on MTG arena I can say that it's quite a removal check, which could be good or bad for your environment depending on what kind of boost white needs.

I like the landfall cards that get +1/+1 counters as well, since it at least in theory seems to me as reducing the tendency for landfall based decks to just wanna red zone all the time since the growth effect only lasts until end of turn, discouraging you from leaving blockers, making games less...

Heliod, Sun-Crowned At what power level does this card become sweet? I feel like the combination of lifegain + growing creatures can be pretty annoying on an indestructible enchantment, because its' so uninteractive. Is it just GRBS?

Hmm I think yes, technically, but is this something your drafters are actually going to figure out? Seems to me like it's maybe something if you really want a lot of depth in your format, but isn't something that is super obvious since it has a "red" identity which is outside of the colors (WB)...

Sure you may know that but I certainly didn't get it ;)

Yeah uh is that supposed to be, like, because Robin Hood climbs up towers that the card has reach?

Drown in the Loch is super annoying to play against in the standard rogues deck, because it can consistently mill you for a gazillion, but I dunno about it in cube. I agree with sigh about Tyrant's Scorn here, it seems efficient and pretty elegant to me!

hedron crab Honestly surprised this gross little crab hasn't been mentioned yet! Mills you crazy quick. Laboratory Maniac Thassa's Oracle Jace, Wielder of Mysteries Some win cons for selfmill that isn't about getting things out of your graveyard. tarmogoyf Pretty sure Goyf count's as a...

Akoum Hellhound Fearless Fledgling Kazandu Mammoth Some more stuff that showed up in the last Zendikar set

Yeah, I think certain discussions around cube seem to completely forget about the kinds of numbers we see in pretty much every retail draft format? Aggro decks there is usually supported by a 3-4 one drops, but mostly 2-drops and 3-drops. Seems like people conflate cube with one specific high...

Jason, you're outsourcing updating your cube to the community? :p

I really like the point about the CC cards, because having two colored pips really does make it much harder to play your two colored decks, which is the norm in draft, and since we all probably have the goal of getting as fun and interactive games of limited magic as possible, it seems like an...