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Chris Taylor

Contributor
oh okay, I only saw gravecrawler in that post.
Do you already have 2 Deathrites? I think we've gone over why that would be a sweet idea, but I don't think 3 is necessary.

What are you looking to add in red? Another sac outlet? something big? something else?
 

Jason Waddell

Administrator
Staff member
oh okay, I only saw gravecrawler in that post.
Do you already have 2 Deathrites? I think we've gone over why that would be a sweet idea, but I don't think 3 is necessary.

What are you looking to add in red? Another sac outlet? something big? something else?

I do have two, but... I'm not sure what I want. I kind of want to cut down on the mono-black zombies and create a bit of a deficit so the deck has to rely on other colors more. I'm really unsure of what I'm looking for and just have this vague feeling of not being entirely satisfied with that element of the design.

If I had to list things I wish were better...
- people are still hesitant to jump into red, to the point where I could probably 2 - 1 or 3 - 0 red aggro decks every week. I don't know how to make it as fun or enticing as the other things (Zombies, Lifegain, Pod, Post, good stuff, control, etc.)
- Zombies are still super strong when it comes together, and more ways to interact with its graveyard are good
- I feel like the weaker drafters force Pod all the time so I'm having trouble separating its design from its players. I know from when I've piloted it that it can win, I've gone undefeated in 4-mans and team sealed with it.
- Pod gets way better if you have more 1-drop accelerants
- I think midrange is a bit undersupported in my cube, and kind of wish more like, Jund goodstuff decks would make the finals

All of these things are pulling me towards another Deathrite. Well, I don't really have an answer to the red thing. Maybe I'll make a thread.
 

Eric Chan

Hyalopterous Lemure
Staff member
Aren't most of your Pod decks, by definition, midrange, though? It's the main reason I've been slow to jump on board the Birthing Pod train - I'm reluctant to give midrange an unnecessary boost, especially when green is already predominantly midrange here.
 

@1:19
"Do I want to draw a card? Actually, I don't think we want to draw a card, this is fine what we have in our hand."
*doesn't tap library of alexandria*

what
can someone explain
what
 
i was in a magic vid watching mood and the only other recent cfb vids i hadnt watched were travis woo vids, and for some reason cfb is the only site i know about with youtube vids of modo with no weird bullshit wrong with it
 

Eric Chan

Hyalopterous Lemure
Staff member
Not even in the slightest bit humble brags:

One of the interns here mock drafts my cube on CubeTutor every time he's waiting for code to compile. I yell that he's making the wrong pick, even though I can't make out the details of his monitor from where I sit. Another intern loaded up my cube onto TappedOut, then onto drafts.in, where he drafts it with his buddies, after which they play out the matches on Cockatrice.

My indoctrination of my workplace is complete.
 

Jason Waddell

Administrator
Staff member
So is drafts.in actually, you know, functional? I would make draft videos if I had a decent way of video-recording my cube.
 

Jason Waddell

Administrator
Staff member
Hey Eric, since drafts.in is forkable on github, could we host a version on RipLab? Also what is the legality of hosting cockatrice servers?
 

Eric Chan

Hyalopterous Lemure
Staff member
Maybe. I'd have to see what our hosting provider supports.

Before I begin investigating, though: Why would we want to get into that line of business?
 

Jason Waddell

Administrator
Staff member
Uh, Eric and I chatted about this in a Google hangout. I think it would be cool to have these under our control, schedule a premier draft of one of our cubes a couple times a month, have people sign up, etc.
 
the legality of hosting a cockatrice server is you will probably get a C&D eventually

there no reason to have to host your own server i dont think though?
 

Eric Chan

Hyalopterous Lemure
Staff member
Yeah, Cockatrice is out of the question entirely. I have no interest in putting our site into the crosshairs of Hasbro lawyers.
 

Eric Chan

Hyalopterous Lemure
Staff member
Uh, Eric and I chatted about this in a Google hangout. I think it would be cool to have these under our control, schedule a premier draft of one of our cubes a couple times a month, have people sign up, etc.

No hosting drafts.in on our site, for the foreseeable future. The long and short of it is that on our current hosting provider, we'd need to move up a couple payment tiers before we can run custom software, which would quintuple our monthly hosting cost. If we were to switch providers at some point, though, we could revisit this option.

That setback, of course, doesn't - and shouldn't - stop us from scheduling drafts, using currently existing sites and software.
 

FlowerSunRain

Contributor
Nah, bro, you just make sure you have enough copies of innocent blood, path of exile and swords to plowshares in your (720 card singleton cube) for all 7 others players to be able to handle it and you'll be fine.
 

Jason Waddell

Administrator
Staff member
i just clicked a random mtgo cube stream on twitch and watched someone lose game 1 to turn 2 channel emrakul and game 2 to turn 2 channel ulamog

good design

Yeah, when I wrote "Cube Fallacy" people wrote in the comments that if you lose to these types of plays it's because you're a bad drafter. Clearly.
 

Dougggggg

Reigning Draft Champion
yeah just play cheaper cards than the other guy

That was my thought in theory. A lot of people I've heard say that those effects don't work out as well as you want them to in practice. Screw it, I'll try, if I don't like it then I'll pitch it.
 
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