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Chris Taylor

Chris Taylor

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Yeah it works mostly on ratio.

I actually consider elspeth the stronger card in my cube, but I draft Jace TMS a lot because I have no idea what a good control deck looks like so my cube tutor has a lot of data from me trying to figure that out :p
 
Eric Chan

Eric Chan

Hyalopterous Lemure
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Yeah, Elspeth is better / dumber in cube than Jace by a fair margin. It doesn't take a whole lot of skill to tick her up by one. I think she was the first card I ever banned on power level.
 
Goldenpineapple

Goldenpineapple

Same, on the banning. Games turned into "Elpseth games" and everyone held their breath to see if the fabled maelstrom pulse or similar was forthcoming. If her second ability was a - how much more fair would she have been?
 
Eric Chan

Eric Chan

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I actually think it might even have been fair at just 0. I mean, anything to get the player to think for a bit. Especially given that her ultimate doesn't do much, and people routinely hit nine and ten loyalty with her while never giving the indestructible emblem a second thought.
 
Jason Waddell

Jason Waddell

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Jonas

Jonas

It's a totem pole? Was thinking something a little more like the lowest cellar in mtg community's moms basement or something.
 
FlowerSunRain

FlowerSunRain

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I'm really not sure what to think when someone claims to have completed "testing" on all the cards from Born of the Gods already. The full spoiler dropped on, what, Friday? What could that reasonably consist of?
 
Dom Harvey

Dom Harvey

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Usually those people are only interested in the cards that are 'obviously' good, and it doesn't take much tesitng to confirm their suspicions.
 
Goldenpineapple

Goldenpineapple

I test cards by putting them in 2-3 different decks that could/would play them, and playing them against a bunch of stereotypical archetypes. I don't do it seriously, just when my friends and I are bored, and there aren't enough people to draft.

A couple weekends ago we made a few kiora decks (UG flash/tempo, Bant control, and bug midrange/ramp) and battled them against aggro, midrange, tempo, and control decks. She actually played very similarly to Tamiyo in most games, but her - is substantially better a lot of the time. Only one player didn't like her because grim lavamancer and other tappers, in addition to lands, do not get locked down by her like they do with tam-tam. Everyone else considered her spot earned.

And I'm not sure totem poles have rungs.
 
Jason Waddell

Jason Waddell

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I am cutting from 4 Gravecrawlers to 3. Somebody tell me what 1-drop should come in. I need arguments people. Currently I am leaning towards the awful Sarcomancy. I mean, 2 permanents to sack to Greater Gargadon, right? Or maybe it shouldn't even be a Zombie?
 
CML

CML

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Jason Waddell said:
I am cutting from 4 Gravecrawlers to 3. Somebody tell me what 1-drop should come in. I need arguments people. Currently I am leaning towards the awful Sarcomancy. I mean, 2 permanents to sack to Greater Gargadon, right? Or maybe it shouldn't even be a Zombie?
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Now that you mention Gargadon I guess we have 2 slots to work with, Diregraf Ghoul is a little boring but you could do worse. How about Guul Draz Vampire and another Cackler? Goblin Welder?
 
Jason Waddell

Jason Waddell

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Because Gargadon is awful and nobody actually plays it in their decks. It's really cool in theory but then you actually go to make your final 40 and it never seems appealing.
 
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