Chris Taylor
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Dom Harvey
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The thing that always made sense to me was:
- Take an adjacent colour pair
- The second colour becomes the first colour of the next pair
- If a new colour isn't directly adjacent, keep going forward until you find one
So:
WUBRG
WU, UB, BR, RG, loop around to GW.
WB, BG, loop around to GU, UR, loop around to RW
- Take an adjacent colour pair
- The second colour becomes the first colour of the next pair
- If a new colour isn't directly adjacent, keep going forward until you find one
So:
WUBRG
WU, UB, BR, RG, loop around to GW.
WB, BG, loop around to GU, UR, loop around to RW
Cube concept: Rap Battle for Zendikar
We have to start the wheel somewhere so we begin at the top with white:
We add white as the first color. Then we add the next color in the clockwise direction until we hit a combination we haven’t hit before (Blue)
We get Azorius.
Moving from Azorius we lose the oldest added color (white) and add the next color in the clockwise direction until we hit a combination we haven’t hit before (Black)
We get Dimir
Moving from Dimir we lose the oldest added color (Blue) and add the next color in the clockwise direction until we hit a combination we haven’t hit before (Red)
We get Rakdos
Moving from Rakdos we lose the oldest added color (Black) and add the next color in the clockwise direction until we hit a combination we haven’t hit before (Green)
We get Gruul
Moving from Gruul we lose the oldest added color (Red) and add the next color in the clockwise direction until we hit a combination we haven’t hit before (White)
We get Selesnya
Moving from Selesnya we lose the oldest added color (Green) and add the next color in the clockwise direction until we hit a combination we haven’t hit before (Black)
We get Orzhov
Moving from Orzhov we lose the oldest added color (White) and add the next color in the clockwise direction until we hit a combination we haven’t hit before (Green)
We get Golgari
Moving from Golgari we lose the oldest added color (Black) and add the next color in the clockwise direction until we hit a combination we haven’t hit before (Blue)
We get Simic
Moving from Simic we lose the oldest added color (Green) and add the next color in the clockwise direction until we hit a combination we haven’t hit before (Red)
We get Izzet
Moving from Izzet we lose the oldest added color (Blue) and add the next color in the clockwise direction until we hit a combination we haven’t hit before (White)
We get Boros
Please notice the method is exactly the same from start to finish and doesn’t change even when we switch from Ally to Enemy. Please notice that each Guild switch keeps exactly one color intact with each switch.
We add white as the first color. Then we add the next color in the clockwise direction until we hit a combination we haven’t hit before (Blue)
We get Azorius.
Moving from Azorius we lose the oldest added color (white) and add the next color in the clockwise direction until we hit a combination we haven’t hit before (Black)
We get Dimir
Moving from Dimir we lose the oldest added color (Blue) and add the next color in the clockwise direction until we hit a combination we haven’t hit before (Red)
We get Rakdos
Moving from Rakdos we lose the oldest added color (Black) and add the next color in the clockwise direction until we hit a combination we haven’t hit before (Green)
We get Gruul
Moving from Gruul we lose the oldest added color (Red) and add the next color in the clockwise direction until we hit a combination we haven’t hit before (White)
We get Selesnya
Moving from Selesnya we lose the oldest added color (Green) and add the next color in the clockwise direction until we hit a combination we haven’t hit before (Black)
We get Orzhov
Moving from Orzhov we lose the oldest added color (White) and add the next color in the clockwise direction until we hit a combination we haven’t hit before (Green)
We get Golgari
Moving from Golgari we lose the oldest added color (Black) and add the next color in the clockwise direction until we hit a combination we haven’t hit before (Blue)
We get Simic
Moving from Simic we lose the oldest added color (Green) and add the next color in the clockwise direction until we hit a combination we haven’t hit before (Red)
We get Izzet
Moving from Izzet we lose the oldest added color (Blue) and add the next color in the clockwise direction until we hit a combination we haven’t hit before (White)
We get Boros
Please notice the method is exactly the same from start to finish and doesn’t change even when we switch from Ally to Enemy. Please notice that each Guild switch keeps exactly one color intact with each switch.
Onderzeeboot
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See, I use a similar pattern in my head @Velrun, but it goes like this:
Objective: We want to create an ordered list of color combinations.
Start: We start in W. This is our initial base color.
Rule 1: We cycle through the color wheel, shifting the base color by one position each time.
Rule 2: Whenever we hit a duplicate color combination, we add the next color along the wheel that gets us a new color combination.
Rule 3: If we can't create a new color combination using rule 2, we add the next color along the wheel to the base color, then reapply rule 2.
W > U > B > R > G > W+U > U+B > B+R > R+G > G+W > W+B > U+R > B+G > R+W > G+U > WU+B > UB+R > BR+G > RG+W > GW+U > WU+R > UB+G > BR+W > RG+U > GW+B > WUB+R > UBR+G > BRG+W > RGW+U > GWU+B > WUBR+G
This method is also exactly the same from start to finish and goes all the way from monocolor to wubrg. I totally get your method, and I think it's just as logically sound. In the end the order is fairly arbitrary, as the articles by WotC clearly show
Objective: We want to create an ordered list of color combinations.
Start: We start in W. This is our initial base color.
Rule 1: We cycle through the color wheel, shifting the base color by one position each time.
Rule 2: Whenever we hit a duplicate color combination, we add the next color along the wheel that gets us a new color combination.
Rule 3: If we can't create a new color combination using rule 2, we add the next color along the wheel to the base color, then reapply rule 2.
W > U > B > R > G > W+U > U+B > B+R > R+G > G+W > W+B > U+R > B+G > R+W > G+U > WU+B > UB+R > BR+G > RG+W > GW+U > WU+R > UB+G > BR+W > RG+U > GW+B > WUB+R > UBR+G > BRG+W > RGW+U > GWU+B > WUBR+G
This method is also exactly the same from start to finish and goes all the way from monocolor to wubrg. I totally get your method, and I think it's just as logically sound. In the end the order is fairly arbitrary, as the articles by WotC clearly show
I mean... I know I'm wrong in my way of thinking. At least that's what I can find online.
However I also know that I have been doing it like that for many years and I cannot imagine myself picking up a Guild-order system on my own. I am semi positive that Wizards must have given me that system.
I feel like they changed the Guild-wheel at some point but I haven't found any evidence of that online.
All I know is that my CubeCobra changed the way they ordered their Guilds from my one to the 'new' one. At least if we compare it to the cube I had (have) on CubeTutor.
However I also know that I have been doing it like that for many years and I cannot imagine myself picking up a Guild-order system on my own. I am semi positive that Wizards must have given me that system.
I feel like they changed the Guild-wheel at some point but I haven't found any evidence of that online.
All I know is that my CubeCobra changed the way they ordered their Guilds from my one to the 'new' one. At least if we compare it to the cube I had (have) on CubeTutor.
Stand your ground, soldier
Onderzeeboot
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No no, that's what I'm saying. None of us are wrong. Wizards of the Coast themselves are inconsistent in the way they order their enemy color pairs.
Same here. It just clicked for me early on when I started playing and I laid out all shocks in color order and the frames bled color to color with each adjacent card and looped back around.
If we ever get a music themed set, this will be my CC article.
Don’t give them ideas. This could actually be one for the maybe-pile they have.
In my opinion the biggest consideration is your balance between aggro and control. If control is struggling you can afford more taplands, and vice versa.
I exported Eldrazi Domain from CubeCobra, and, this may be upsetting to some of you, but they listed the color identity of cards like Horde of Notions as:
Onderzeeboot
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Are you trying to start a civil war here?
Anybody else look forward to sitting down with a cup of tea and a fresh Scryfall query?
Onderzeeboot
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I sometimes type "sc" into the address bar in a new tab out of habit.
Chris Taylor
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Christ the xml that lets people play my custom cards in cockatrice was last modified in August of 2020.
It's officially been too long
It's officially been too long
Sometimes I'm bored and I go on scryfall and search random cards to have something to do
I inject Tea directly into my veins. I'm not even English!
Yeah, I mean... I'm pretty sure the English just drink it.
Does anyone know if there exists inner sleeves in colors?
I am Brainstorming a way to mark my cards without stickers or sharpies. I thought inner sleeves could be a way if there exist some in colors that are not the normal perfectly see-through.
I am Brainstorming a way to mark my cards without stickers or sharpies. I thought inner sleeves could be a way if there exist some in colors that are not the normal perfectly see-through.