Here's a thread where we debate two cards.
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General Fight Club
- Thread starter Jason Waddell
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Laz
Developer
I was in the mindset of neither, simply because they are way too dependent on mana, though from playing Thoctar in Scuttle-cube, I realise that they are playable in environments with really good fixing. That said, even in an environment that fixing-heavy (it runs fetch-able Vivids for crying out loud!) Thoctar is still difficult to cast on curve. Of the two, Doran is probably more interesting, given the effect he has on the game, but he is in a colour combination which doesn't really get played too often in my experience. Naya gets played a lot more because all of those colours often are built to do similar things(they are generally trying to hit the opponent in the face with creatures), while black being paired with white or green generally wants to play a longer more attrition-oriented game (at least in my cube), and probably doesn't want a big cheap beater as much.
My verdict is Thoctar. It is boring, but Boros or Gruul splashing the third colour gets played often enough in my cube and would love a 5-power 3-drop. That said, neither is also pretty viable, as I don't know if this is incentive enough to be forced into drafting fixing that aggressively.
Sidenote, in Ulvenwald Tracker's fight club, Thoctar destroys something beautiful.
My verdict is Thoctar. It is boring, but Boros or Gruul splashing the third colour gets played often enough in my cube and would love a 5-power 3-drop. That said, neither is also pretty viable, as I don't know if this is incentive enough to be forced into drafting fixing that aggressively.
Sidenote, in Ulvenwald Tracker's fight club, Thoctar destroys something beautiful.
Dom Harvey
Contributor
Doran obv
It's more interesting, a better card, in a colour combination that doesn't get as much help, and actually interacts in fun ways with other cards, and isn't pretty much worse than less restrictive options (cf. Loxodon Smiter)
It's more interesting, a better card, in a colour combination that doesn't get as much help, and actually interacts in fun ways with other cards, and isn't pretty much worse than less restrictive options (cf. Loxodon Smiter)
Doran: because Birds of Paradise, Spellskite and Deathrite Shaman need to be better cards, clearly.
(p.s. you duders can start new fights, this isn't the Doran v. buffalo wings thread)
Onderzeeboot
Ecstatic Orb
vs. I vote for Doran btw, that effect is unique and more fun than vanilla beats
FlowerSunRain
Contributor
Wolly Thoctar is totally cooler. I mean, the idea of crushing face with a sheep is cool I guess, randomly getting a 5 power 2 drop because you played a 5 power three drop seems oddly inappropriate. The beast just does what it does with benchmark creating stats and I respect a man who beats face without any bullshit drama or repeated graveyard counting.
I think tinker is better because its easier to design around.
Snuff out is definitely a stronger card then slaughter pact and I used to love it before free removal had to be cut in order to push auras.
I think tinker is better because its easier to design around.
Snuff out is definitely a stronger card then slaughter pact and I used to love it before free removal had to be cut in order to push auras.
Onderzeeboot
Ecstatic Orb
Agree with Snuff Out being the better card, because it only ties up your mana when you can afford it and because it comes online quicker. I would totally Snuff Out a Goblin Guide for example. It's also the better art incidentally.
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Onderzeeboot
Ecstatic Orb
That's what you get when you combine a day off with constant internet access, sorry
Chris Taylor
Contributor
Agree with Snuff Out being the better card, because it only ties up your mana when you can afford it and because it comes online quicker. I would totally Snuff Out a Goblin Guide for example. It's also the better art incidentally.
(Am I going too fast?)
How is monger vs Nyx Weaver even a question
Onderzeeboot
Ecstatic Orb
Oh, I get that Spiritmonger is the more powerful card in a vacuum, but green isn't exactly lacking powerful 5-drops, so I was wondering if Nyx Weaver is interesting enough to make the swap.
Chris Taylor
Contributor
I guess, but nyx weaver is one of those cards that doesn't really justify the second color to me
I would not want to make this choice honestly. But if I had to, it would have to be Genesis for me. That's probably my favorite green card of all time. It's an engine and an arch type all rolled into one. Silverheart is just a wonderful card though and pairs so nicely with traditional mana elf strategies. I love turning my 0/1 bird into a 4/5 flying monstrosity.
yo are you the same MCMcEmcee as the one that played fighting games and starcraft?
it's been a while, cool to see you around in a completely unrelated place. sorry if i was a bit dumb back in the day on that other site, i've grown a bit as a person since then. welcome to riptidelab!
CML
Contributor
there are two choices here:
-don't power-max your 3-color cards so nobody will play them
-power-max them so there's a faint chance they will
edit: drafting around doran sounds fun as fuck. you could reveillark it back or imperial recruiter for it. i love doran. also if you have murmuring bosk you can play with that sweet-ass magic card
