General Life Gain as a Thing

[CML]

i would not cut duress if you like making interesting choices on t1 and propping up a black deck that isn't aggro

the pod decks do also have redcap presumably so i think cutting a 4-mana nekrataal is fine, though my vote is for one of {fleshbag marauder, pawn of ulamog, bloodgift demon}

 

[Jason Waddell]

Choose 2:

 

[Jonas]

Verdict and Tithe drinker, just from the double cost on Obzedat. If that isn't a problem, I'd go for Obz over Gerrard's Verdict.

 

[OCPunisher]

Choose 2:

Without knowing more information about what you're trying to promote in the guild section, or within various archetypes, or the cube overall, I would say that Tithe Drinker is weaker than the other two. Unfair decks probably won't care about it, and the casting cost makes it harder for aggro decks to use it.

 

[Jason Waddell]

I think one of the big issues with the archetype is that it is so 2-drop heavy.


We'll see.

 

[Konge]

I'd go with Ghost Daddy over Tithe Drinker. It seems that so far there are plenty of guys for the archetype who are "just dudes", and I think it would benefit from some bombyness to lead drafters towards it.

 

[Jason Waddell]

I'd go with Ghost Daddy over Tithe Drinker. It seems that so far there are plenty of guys for the archetype who are "just dudes", and I think it would benefit from some bombyness to lead drafters towards it.

Hmm.. I like this argument. I'll print a proxy and el-testo.

 

[James Stevenson]

I like Tithe Drinker more than Gerrard's Verdict, but I don't like Obzedat, he's too good.

 

[CML]

PLAY OBZEDAT. The card is magnificent. Like when it was printed it looked like trash to me, but then I stuck it in the Cube and realized it just ... ends the game. Lots of decisions for the caster, too (if not for the opponent).

PLAY GERRY'S VERDICT. They'd never print a card nearly that good these days.

Re. the whole 2-drop thing: has anyone else noticed that their Cube Junk decks always blow? A surfeit of 2-drops and color-intensive ones to boot might be to blame. Like I know 1WWBB is awkward and restrictive, but it's both a) easier than WB b) more forgiving of being slightly off-curve

 

[Jason Waddell]

I can't imagine a five drop being too good in my cube. Thinking Gerrard and Obi.

 

[Konge]

PLAY OBZEDAT. The card is magnificent. Like when it was printed it looked like trash to me, but then I stuck it in the Cube and realized it just ... ends the game. Lots of decisions for the caster, too (if not for the opponent).

PLAY GERRY'S VERDICT. They'd never print a card nearly that good these days.

Re. the whole 2-drop thing: has anyone else noticed that their Cube Junk decks always blow? A surfeit of 2-drops and color-intensive ones to boot might be to blame. Like I know 1WWBB is awkward and restrictive, but it's both a) easier than WB b) more forgiving of being slightly off-curve

I'm always super psyched about my Junk decks, and then they end up crashing. I think it's because there's so much going on. I'm a sucker for a Loam-subtheme in those colors, and of course pod would do well because most of the creatures have awesome ETB abilities, I'm definitely putting that Gavony Township in because there's quite a few token producers, and since those are there, I'm putting Braids and stax in!

 

[Jason Waddell]

Is this a card?

 

[Jason Waddell]

Are there any good ways to stretch the theme into blue?

 

[Jonas]

Augury Adept is good, at least in my cube Absorb is really boring, I like Azorius charm, and sejiri merfolk seems fun.

 

[Goldenpineapple]

Horizon chimera is sweet. Pretty much the curve topper of the tempo archetype; the lifegain can become no joke in cube. Makes every draw spell a variant of sphinx's revelation!

 

[Jason Waddell]

Would be okay with my cube's three Brainstorms...

 

[Jonas]

The flying and trample part is pretty neat with Thune too.

 

[Jason Waddell]

Are you not aroused?

 

[CML]

tried the whole Zuran Orb thing yet? man was that card sweet at the age of 10 (and i've seen 1x in RUG sideboards too)

isn't Sejiri Merfolk just Knight of Meadowgrain for retards?

as King Martyr I think that if a lifegain theme must be pushed it must be pushed in Black, though i'd play Azorius Charm anyway

 

[Dom Harvey]

I agree that it should be pushed in Black:



fully endorse Horizon Chimera

 

[Jason Waddell]

Does Horizon Chimera trigger three separate times off of Brainstorm?

 

[Alfonzo Bonzo]

Does Horizon Chimera trigger three separate times off of Brainstorm?

Yeah. Cast brainstorm, resolves. Three chimera triggers go on the stack and resolve independently.

I like the move into blue, I think it would be quite interesting to see how it goes. I don't think the menfolk is bad. Easier to cast knight of meadowgrain is better surely?

Zorb just feels like a whole lot of do nothing by itself.

 

[Jason Waddell]

There used to be a 3-0 GW deck in my cube...


It's a pretty crazy archetype that I never wrote about, with tons of interactions and really interesting lines and potential infinite combos. I'm trying to bring it back, sans Balance / Geddon, but including these options:



Alternatively:

 

[Jason Waddell]

I like the move into blue, I think it would be quite interesting to see how it goes. I don't think the menfolk is bad. Easier to cast knight of meadowgrain is better surely?

The question is what to cut for it. Surely it's an UW card... bump that section up to four cards?

 

[CML]

an UW 2-drop isn't easier to cast than a WW one, wtf