Card/Deck Low Power Card Spotlight
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Onderzeeboot
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It's literally gravy. you would be cubing it for the first ability, and every once in a while it smoothes someone's mana.
This card is so good, I love it. It's grave hate, fixing, and a cantrip all in one card. So much value. So much synergy. Great card, 10/10 would play again.Is
A consideration? Exiles one problematic card and cantrips and little value from the GY.
the mana smoothing is the most important part IMO, the cycling and grave hate are gravy
How is this card actually within a lower powered environment? I do run 12 fecthes, 15 cycle lands and a few creature-lands and sac-for-effects-lands. Is it bananas? Better than Life from the Loam?
Crucible is slightly more fair than Loam in a lower powered cube imo. Loam is a one card engine that does a lot more than just recur land. (I think loam is pretty fair too). With Crucible you are limited to what is in your graveyard.
I don't think playing a land every turn is particularly busted...same goes for recurring a quicksand or mishra's factory or cycling a land and getting to play it.
Crucible is one of my favorite cube cards, and I highly recommend testing it
I don't think playing a land every turn is particularly busted...same goes for recurring a quicksand or mishra's factory or cycling a land and getting to play it.
Crucible is one of my favorite cube cards, and I highly recommend testing it
Onderzeeboot
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Agree, I run both Loam and Crucible (and Ramunap Excavator) to support my Wildfires. Crucible is gas even outside of that archetype. It sometimes gets picked up by the discard matters archetype, for example, because discarding lands for value, then still being able to play them is value!
The order of benefits is off for me. I need the mana smoothing early and the grave hate later.
Crucible is only obnoxious with Fastbond effects to play multiple lands in a turn or Stripmine-type land destruction.How is this card actually within a lower powered environment? I do run 12 fecthes, 15 cycle lands and a few creature-lands and sac-for-effects-lands. Is it bananas? Better than Life from the Loam?
Crucible seems like one of those cards that is fair on every power level. Like Demonic Tutor
You can break the card. But it takes a lot of work for the player. Or a lot of mistakes from the designer of the cube.
Thumbs up here
You can break the card. But it takes a lot of work for the player. Or a lot of mistakes from the designer of the cube.
Thumbs up here
landofMordor
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I think Loam is much, much better than Crucible. In the absence of Wasteland/Strip Mine/Urza's Saga (the land), neither is close to broken.
Loam and Crucible are very different cards, honestly, in that Loam is also an incredibly powerful graveyard enabler. If you just want people to do cute things with fetches and cycling lands, Crucible (or Ramunap Excavator) is probably safer.
Onderzeeboot
Ecstatic Orb
Tested it and cut it. Not for being too strong. Quite a fun card, but cycling it 4 times for the special trick doesn't happen very often. It was actually best just as an 8/8 trample, haste for 7 mana, so I cut it for being too generic. I like the 5/5 trample, haste uncommon better in that role.
I love Yidaro. It’s pretty indispensable in my cube alongside cards like Sneak Attack, Oath of Druids, and See the Unwritten
In general, I really like Yidaro in ramp and control decks. I don’t care about the free cast so much. It’s just nice to cycle away in the early game when you need other things more. Tucking itself means that you can still draw into it later when you have the mana to cast.
In general, I really like Yidaro in ramp and control decks. I don’t care about the free cast so much. It’s just nice to cycle away in the early game when you need other things more. Tucking itself means that you can still draw into it later when you have the mana to cast.
How do folks feel about Sarulf’s Packmate as a role-player?
Being able to smooth your draw while putting a respectable body on the board regardless of whether you’re flooded or tight on lands seems good even if it’s never going to be flashy.
Being able to smooth your draw while putting a respectable body on the board regardless of whether you’re flooded or tight on lands seems good even if it’s never going to be flashy.
It will also never be bad I assume, considering in which thread you're posting. The only thing is, unless green is involved in blink shenanigans, you could use this slot for something with more synergy potential. For example, I run Ondu Giant, which is worse on face value but works with landfall and super ramp themes you might be supporting.
Onderzeeboot
Ecstatic Orb
You don't have to keep the mana up though. It's just, curve out, and then when you naturally have mana up, it's just sort of a small bonus? I don't think it's too broken, but it's kind of fun with sacrifice outlets as a way to create more value. In combination with a Birthing Pod, it allows you to start a second chain if you so choose.
This was widely considered to be the best draft common in Kaldheim if I remember correctly. I think if your power level is low enough that it mirrors retail limited and you're ok with playing a foretell card, then go right ahead and give it a try.
On a related note, Spore Crawler from Crimson Vow has been seeming quite good to me so far. I know Jim Davis really likes it and drew in Sarulf’s Packmate as a comparison point. Perhaps this card would be of interest as well?