General Print this Wizards! (So I can put it in my cube)
- Thread starter Chris Taylor
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Seer's Escort feels too much like "hey this is the White card, it goes in all the White archetypes, does your deck do White things? then it probably wants this card!"
Not that it's OP, just that it seems to be too no-brainer of an include in decks. The tokens work with anthems, but thanks to the vigilance they don't even mind being the target of single-target buffs. The card itself triggers lifegain, likes to be blinked/reanimated, and oh hey there's scry on it too just in case you need that. I might remove the "oh hey scry" or "also, lifegain!" or "and the tokens have vigilance!" aspect(s) and give it more of a focus.
Maybe up it to lose 2 life on the hulk.
Not that it's OP, just that it seems to be too no-brainer of an include in decks. The tokens work with anthems, but thanks to the vigilance they don't even mind being the target of single-target buffs. The card itself triggers lifegain, likes to be blinked/reanimated, and oh hey there's scry on it too just in case you need that. I might remove the "oh hey scry" or "also, lifegain!" or "and the tokens have vigilance!" aspect(s) and give it more of a focus.
Maybe up it to lose 2 life on the hulk.
Onderzeeboot
Ecstatic Orb
Maybe you could make it a Soul Warden? Ooh, with spirit tokens...Okay so you guys got me thinking about 5 drops and white spells etc so you're in for some #ExperimentalDesigns
Seer's Escort
Creature - Human Cleric
When Seer's Escort enters the battlefield put two 2/2 white vigilant knight tokens onto the battlefield.
: Scry 1 and gain 1 life.
1/1
Soul Tender
Creature - Human Cleric
When Soul Tender enters the battlefield, put three 1/1 white Spirit creature tokens with flying onto the battlefield.
Whenever another creature enters the battlefield, you gain 1 life.
1/1
I would so play that
Is this not a sweet five-drop?
Demon Prince - 1BBB
Flying, lifelink
Pay 3 life: draw 3 cards. Activate this only once per turn and only during your end step.
3/3
Before the helvault broke, there were still voices whispering promises of wealth and power
Chris Taylor
Contributor
Someone's been paying attention
Would it be broken at BB2? Gristlebrand is only quad black, not 6 black
I dunno, I think that the fact that it's at the end of your turn and not on demand might be restriction enough. We want people to play the thing too so 2BB might be right!
Chris Taylor
Contributor
Sounds good to me. Also: Probably just wants to be a trigger, not an ability at this point. It makes him less gristlebrandy, but he looks odd at this point
Oh yeah. Didn't think of that! Good point.
Demon Prince - 2BB
Flying, Lifelink
At the beginning of your end step, you may pay 3 life. If you do, draw 3 cards.
"If you can't break the helvault, just glue two of these guys together." - Grafdigger Cultist Saying
Demon Prince - 2BB
Flying, Lifelink
At the beginning of your end step, you may pay 3 life. If you do, draw 3 cards.
"If you can't break the helvault, just glue two of these guys together." - Grafdigger Cultist Saying
Chris Taylor
Contributor
Love the flavor text
Chris Taylor
Contributor
Regular limited mostly. Delve is one of those stupid mechanics where the average case is (unless the card is being cast on T1-2) it costs about half as much as it's printed CMC, but for constructed you have to assume it costs 0 colorless mana all the time, since that can and will happen (see treasure cruise. People played 6-7 copies in decks all for reasonable mana costs.)
Zombie is a fine if unexciting upgrade on this guy I guess?
Okay goons, I think you are underestimating the power of card-less Ancient Craving. Grisslebaby costs a million mana for a reason, so you don't get to start drawing an insane amount of cards in the middle of the game unless you work to undermine game fundamentals. Drawing 3 cards for 3 life is nuts, at least with 7 for 7 it was a significant life investment to get it rolling immediately. Jesus that card is nuts. Draw 3 every turn for 3 life? And the downside is it has to deal damage to something so you don't hurt yourself? Like even if you are losing a lot of life with this (somehow) 3 cards is a lot of agency to get you out of trouble pal. Man I wish I got to play with cards this good.
Annnnnnnnnnnnyway... Regarding my Seer's Escort, @Bootman, I think you are missing one of the main themes of that bunch of card. I'm trying to make white do more stuff and have more introspective abilities / access to card advantage and filtering. I put both the life and the scying on there because its really flavorful and I find that it's easy to get a cheap rate on many small effects than one big effect. I want white to scry more and I think it'd be really good for white too. Your card is fine but it seems more like the sort of card white gets all the time. It's a wrath that also attacks. That's fine but I'm looking for something more than a stabilizing fatty. I wish I could make the seer cheaper and smaller but I feel like you guys would be annoyed with a white card that scryed early and also traded very well.
If it cost and made 2 soldiers it would probably be way less interesting too. I have a lot of ideas built around the utility guy + army in a can idea, but right then I was focusing on deck and hand.
Annnnnnnnnnnnyway... Regarding my Seer's Escort, @Bootman, I think you are missing one of the main themes of that bunch of card. I'm trying to make white do more stuff and have more introspective abilities / access to card advantage and filtering. I put both the life and the scying on there because its really flavorful and I find that it's easy to get a cheap rate on many small effects than one big effect. I want white to scry more and I think it'd be really good for white too. Your card is fine but it seems more like the sort of card white gets all the time. It's a wrath that also attacks. That's fine but I'm looking for something more than a stabilizing fatty. I wish I could make the seer cheaper and smaller but I feel like you guys would be annoyed with a white card that scryed early and also traded very well.
If it cost
and made 2 soldiers it would probably be way less interesting too. I have a lot of ideas built around the utility guy + army in a can idea, but right then I was focusing on deck and hand.
Onderzeeboot
Ecstatic Orb
I totally dig your scryer Lucre, I even think you could push it a little further as I said, because it's a tad underwhelming when compared to Cloudgoat Ranger. Really, my army in a can Soul Warden was just a tangent that got me exited. Like, the though of an expensive Soul Warden that brings her own dudes just struck the right chord. It was inspired by your design, but not meant as an improvement over your design
If the vigilance is a problem for guys, maybe you could have it make a single 4/4 Angel creature token with flying instead. Same P/T, but evasion instead of vigilance, and easier to remove (because only one creature). Flavor it as a cleric getting guidance from an angel or something. Presto!
If the vigilance is a problem for guys, maybe you could have it make a single 4/4 Angel creature token with flying instead. Same P/T, but evasion instead of vigilance, and easier to remove (because only one creature). Flavor it as a cleric getting guidance from an angel or something. Presto!
Okay babes I was bored on the train the other day and started a series of strong charms!
Instant
Choose one then draw a card:
Instant
Choose one then draw a card:
Sorcery
Choose one then draw a card:
Instant
Choose one then draw a card
Instant
Choose one then draw a card:
- Search your library for a basic land card, reveal it and put it into your hand.
- Put two 1/1 green insect creature tokens onto the battlefield.
- Target creature gains reach and death touch until end of turn.
Instant
Choose one then draw a card:
- Target permanent gains protection from the colour of your choice until end of turn.
- Target creature gets +1/+1 until end of turn.
- You cannot be the target of spells or abilities until end of turn.
Sorcery
Choose one then draw a card:
- Exile a card in target player's graveyard
- Return a black creature from your graveyard to your hand.
- Deal 1 damage to target player and gain 1 life.
Instant
Choose one then draw a card
- Deal 2 damage to target player
- Deal 2 damage to target creature that was already dealt damage this turn
- Discard up to two cards then draw that many cards.
The black one seems like only the middle mode will ever get used.
Sorcery
Choose one then draw a card:
- Exile target card in a graveyard
- Return target creature from your graveyard to your hand.
- Deal 1 damage to target creature and gain 1 life.
Instant
Choose one then draw a card
- Deal 2 damage to target creature or player that was already dealt damage this turn
- Destroy target artifact.
- Discard up to two cards then draw that many cards.
Instant
Choose one then draw a card
- Unsummon
- Counter target non-creature spell
- Draw a card
Has anyone tested the original?
When you made the black one what sort of environment did you have in mind buddy?
Sorcery
Choose one then draw a card:
I'm pretty sure these are all too good with the "draw a card" bit left on, but are kinda sweet.
- Exile target card in a graveyard
- Return target creature from your graveyard to your hand.
- Deal 1 damage to target creature and gain 1 life.
I kinda like your blue one but I think I might scale it down. I'm thinking 3cc might be nice and one option might be equivalent to remand!
So yeah anyway I was thinking these would go in a really suped limited format or just for cube. The green one is easily the strongest as far as my reckoning goes, I might change the bugs to a wolf.
I also just really like the idea of a set with tonnes of charms / commands / exarchs. (or like at least one solid charm per rarity per colour).
Graveborn Muse is to Phyrexian Arena and Baby Gris is to... Contract from Below? I think some of you are underestimating that card a lot..
Well the black one is like pretty bad the way you made it, I wondered where you thought it would see play. I guess it deals damage to creatures now, thats something I missed. I don't really know why you want it to be more expensive though sorcery speed cremate loses a lot of it's utility and recover is like a solid but very iffy card in a lot of formats.
I was imagining it as being pretty decent to help kill a planeswalker or creature a 2 point life swing without costing you any cards.
Instant
Choose one and then draw a card:
oh here are more charm dudes. Anyone have more input on my powerful charms series? Do you really think these would mess up a limited environment if they were all good and like all at uncommon? Don't you think they'd make fine less powerful cube cardz?
Instant
Choose one:
Creature - Horror
Flying
When NAME enters the battlefield choose one:
I was imagining it as being pretty decent to help kill a planeswalker or creature a 2 point life swing without costing you any cards.
Instant
Choose one and then draw a card:
- Return target spell to it's owners hand.
- Tap target permanent, it does not untap during it's controllers next untap step.
- Target creature cannot be blocked until end of turn? nah...
oh here are more charm dudes. Anyone have more input on my powerful charms series? Do you really think these would mess up a limited environment if they were all good and like all at uncommon? Don't you think they'd make fine less powerful cube cardz?
Instant
Choose one:
- Target player sacrifices a creature.
- Draw two cards and lose 2 life.
Creature - Horror
Flying
When NAME enters the battlefield choose one:
- Draw a card and lose 1 life.
- Name deals 1 damage to target player and you gain 1 life?