Even in limited, I'd always pick a Rampant Growth above the Petal. Permanent ramp is so much stronger, except if you ramp out a Hypnotic Specter on t1 or a Phyrexian Obliterator on t2 with Dark Ritual. I don't see the petal doing that much, I like Chromatic Star much more in its place, even if it's just fixing, but also a cantrip.
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Yeah, I can never see wanting Lotus Petal over Chromatic Star in a fair situation. I just played the Petal in a Underworld Breach deck in last week's cube draft and it was a solid playable when doing unfair things. Even so, in basically any scenario it can't compare to:
I don't think LED is meaningfully less narrow than Lotus Petal (although doubling up on LED might be excessive). Even in a fair-ish cube, LED sounds more interesting with say:
I have this in my cube that has a decent GY theme. I am not sure why I am including it though. I mean it is never bad, but I like it less than Grapple with the Past for example (which also plays as a set up card).
Why do you play (or not) Regrowth?
I'm the opposite, I've found Regrowth always useful while Grapple with the Past is...questionable. The reason is that Regrowth can get back all your engines and other vital cards. It can replay Smokestack, a discarded Wildfire, Crucible of Worlds, etc.
Part of the issue is that both fight for the same slot or at least a similar one. Is mill, regrowth too broken? Because I want that.
Part of the issue is that both fight for the same slot or at least a similar one. Is mill, regrowth too broken? Because I want that.
Yeah, regrowth can act as a kind of tutor in a deck with enough self mill! Cool card imho
I run both. Just this week grapple won me a game that regrowth literally would have lost.
He should have that video up soon-ish — it was a pretty good game
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Also I have fond memories of me winning a cube match with Plow Under, Regrowth, Plow Under. The Plow Under is gone but the Regrowth remains.
did anyone already test this:
I don't support tribal explicitly but there are a lot of creatures of some tribes in my cube. what I like about it: it's etb also can go to the face, and it has the same offensive statline as FTK.
not sure if I like Igneous Elemental and/or Warfire Javelineer better, though.
I don't support tribal explicitly but there are a lot of creatures of some tribes in my cube. what I like about it: it's etb also can go to the face, and it has the same offensive statline as FTK.
not sure if I like Igneous Elemental and/or Warfire Javelineer better, though.
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That must have been a horrible experience for villain
When you cast plow under, do you not become the villain?
Certainly!
Unless opponent has a Winter Orb or Stasis on the battlefield. Then they’re still the villain.
I feel like Regrowth has been virtually obsoleted by Bala Ged Recovery. The 1 mana might matter sometimes, but the flexibility of the MDFC must outweigh that overall, right?
I don't want to run Bala Ged Recovery because then random decks will take it instead of leaving the effect for those that need it.
Regrowth is already a widely desirable card, so I'm not sure the drafting tension will be that much higher with Recovery. Still a good thing either way. If there's a card with drafting tension, we offset with alternatives or density of effects. For instance, you might already have eternal witness and this is a secondary slot. Providing recursion tools to other colors and deck strategies would also help with any perceived supply shortage.
The one thing holding me back from making the swap to Bala Ged Recovery is the complexity creep. My drafters aren't current with the new sets and MDFC are a lot to take in.
That being said I think it is greatly superior to Regrowth except for the fact I have an old black-bordered one
That being said I think it is greatly superior to Regrowth except for the fact I have an old black-bordered one
You make good arguments for Bala Ged Recovery. What about these cards? I love Tempo decks but they lack a bit of oomph and I have a free slot:
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You make good arguments for Bala Ged Recovery. What about these cards? I love Tempo decks but they lack a bit of oomph and I have a free slot:
Coastal Piracy is inferior to Reconnaissance Mission because you don't draw a card when you deal combat damage to yourself with a creature you control!
Wait, I didn't notice that! I don't think I have any stuff like that in my cube but it IS interesting.
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It's very corner case :') the real reason Mission is better is obviously because it a) cycles and b) is cheaper $-wise. For some reason Coastal Piracy is an expensive uncommon :shrug:
Sometimes I just want a card that does what it says on the tin. I would never leave my best girl home on a Saturday night, though, so I'd happily run both.