It's solid, but at the end of the day it's a 4 mana "do nothing" enchantment if it's played on curve. Strong if you can chain multiple land drops or have some fetch recursion ala Titania, Protector of Argoth, but pretty fair overall.
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It's good, but it's far from stupid. It's a good midrange value engine that helps to showcase any potential land shenanigans you might be supporting. I think if you compare this to another fair card like Primordial Mist you can kind of see how Felidar Retreat isn't necessarily stupid.Isn't this stupid with double fetches?
Agreed with @TrainmasterGT - it basically plays like a less consistent 5-mana Gideon, Ally of Zendikar that can occasionally hit twice in one turn. It's sweet, but not powerful and/or interesting enough for my list since it's at such a competitive part of the curve.Isn't this stupid with double fetches?
Thanks for the advice, guys. Talking about 4-drops. What decks really want Greater Good? Like, what's the end-goal with the card?
Thanks for the advice, guys. Talking about 4-drops. What decks really want Greater Good? Like, what's the end-goal with the card?
The ultimate goal imho is to do something like Greater Good on a big creature (Yosei, Kokusho etc), instead of drawing 6 you dredge 20 and then you Living Death or something similar to get back everything
This is a card that makes Johnny-minded players happy but causes them to lose Cube matches through tempo loss. This card is only good in very slow, very low-power environments where sacrificing a reasonably large creature isn't going to necessarily swing the game too much.Thanks for the advice, guys. Talking about 4-drops. What decks really want Greater Good? Like, what's the end-goal with the card?
Thoughts on non-Copter Vehicles? Which ones are good?
@Nanonox said my vehicles sucked in my new design.
@Nanonox said my vehicles sucked in my new design.
I think I was more surprised by the presence of the Copter in comparaison with the other vehicles.
Looking at your list right now, they all look good except Peacewalker Colossus which I am not convinced about. Crew 4 is a big ask and all you get is a vanilla 6/6.
I also like Untethered Express. It's crew cost is super cheap. It has trample and is effectively a 5/5 for 4. I think I saw some counters synergy in your list too. However, I think you have enough good vehicles already that you don't need this one.
Looking at your list right now, they all look good except Peacewalker Colossus which I am not convinced about. Crew 4 is a big ask and all you get is a vanilla 6/6.
I also like Untethered Express. It's crew cost is super cheap. It has trample and is effectively a 5/5 for 4. I think I saw some counters synergy in your list too. However, I think you have enough good vehicles already that you don't need this one.
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Have the other two. Not thrilled to have to keep Cat tokens on me, but Esika's seems super good.
More interested in them as a way to add artifact density than "I need specifically Vehicles," I guess. As a cuber only, I don't have a ton of experience with the card type.
Thanks for the advice, guys. Talking about 4-drops. What decks really want Greater Good? Like, what's the end-goal with the card?
I think the better card by far is Momentous Fall, tbh, if you can spare holding up four mana in a green deck.
Greater Good is good when you're running things with death triggers that are worth more than a card, so if you have, idk, Protean Hulk or Abyssal Persecutor it can get pretty busted, but these are usually very specific interactions.
Make a scale!
This is generally a card I'm happy to run in Monocolor Aggro, since it's a utility land with reasonable upside and a low opportunity cost. The card is significantly worse than Mishra's Factory and Mutavault, and I also rate it below many other low-opportunity-cost utility lands like the Castles, the new AFR Manlands, the Mythic MDFCs from ZNR, etc. which are generally much higher impact cards, and therefore much higher picks in general. I find that the Nexus sits at an awkward spot where its something monocolor aggressive decks want and are happy to play, but is also low-impact enough to still be a low pick even for decks that want it and often ends ends up rotting sideboards, so as a result I usually cut this card from cubes without dedicated Utility Land Drafts. With that said, I think this is a totally fine card for cubes with a Utility Land Draft (or cubes where you don't play the stronger utility lands for power level reasons), as it's simply another low-investment utility land to act as wrath protection/extra reach/mana sink for aggressive decks, and while it's nowhere near the top of the pile for utility lands, with a Utility Land Draft or a lower power level it's much more likely to end up in the hands of someone who'll use it, and I like it in that niche.After Pondering over this thread I have a few cards I would like to ask you about.
Who would want this?
I was interested in it, but having to always crew with two creatures is a big cost, and you don't get ETB effects. I dunno, I'm still interested in it, but I'm going to wait until someone else proves it's good first.Is this a new good card? It have somehow missed the letter from Hogwarts on it. Is it good?
The crewing is quite different from most vehicles.
This card saw a fair bit of play in Jund Food and Rakdos Pyromancer decks in Historic, does it need to “go deep” or can it fit nicely into any cube that goes wide?
Sacrificing two creatures is a lot. I think you are better off with other sacrifice outlets.
in Food it would sacrifice the cats and Woe Strider goats to create cat/oven loops or trigger Korvold.
in pyromancer it would sacrifice Pyromancer tokens, Stitchers Suppliers, and Kroxas to blow up the enemy board and keep cards flowing.
i think if your cube is making a significant number of 1/1 or even 2/2 tokens, or have recursive stuff like Bloodghast, there are plays to be made. note that while she has to tap, it’s an instant speed, zero mana outlet that gives you basically 3 for 2 (you sac 2, they sac 1, you draw 1, you get mana and a ping which kinda adds up to 1), and you can further break the symmetry with your typical Bx deathrattley stuff.
Dom Harvey
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Priest is a really unique sacrifice payoff especially you can use the mana jump for something big like Living Death
he’s OK, not great. probably a little better than Shadowmage Infiltrator if you’re still running that. nice little effect for a defensive deck though
Chris Taylor
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I do love the little git, but I think my cube is more suited to Baleful Strix, and I'm slowly admitting that to myself.