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Cultivate with retrace could be activated a maximum of four times and realistically twice before you just don't hit land drops to make it go anymore. That would be a cool way to thin your deck, though. Sidebar: Regrowth with retrace would be a cute way to enable storm. I think that while the...

I completely agree that in most cubes LadyMapi's list + Spitting Image as Karshtakavaar mentions are the I ly real considerations, but man do I wish we had more if only to make Burning Vengeance viable for cube.

Yeah, the enlistment and the syphon are for something that would be super low power, like an actual-factual retail-level set. Thanks! And yes, Reality Scramble and Throes of Chaos are great.

Thanks for the feedback! Sounds like Spawning is what I want here, although the loss of the true hybrid cost is a real bummer. I really like retrace as a mechanic, it's a shame that it's so wonky to balance. In that vein, has anyone tried running either of the following? The former seems...

Mostly self-mill and discard, but cycling lands, sac lands, and horizon lands should get some lands into the GY. It's not fantastically easy the way a fetch-powered environment would be, but it's not particularly hard either.

Worm Harvest Spider Spawning I love both of these cards, but they overlap and make the GB self-mill deck a little too linear for my taste. Which leads to the cooler variants of these decks, in your opinion?

Preacher is kind of cool until you realize it's almost strictly worse than Chainer's Edict and that the Edict can be kind of rough sometimes.

Thanks! Cool cube, btw. CubeCobra is keeping me from editing my decks, but I managed to get a screenshot of my second draft before it crapped out on me. P1P1'd the Dig Through Time -> Young Pyromancer -> Mother of Runes -> Arid Mesa (? I think? Or Bitterblossom) -> Mardu crats/aggro. It...

Thanks! I was worried you were talking about physical limitations--I went up to 16 because I have a lot of lands (almost 100 in a 384ish) and was looking at the Cubeamajigs to hold it together.

Oh dang, it's really just 15? I had thought the consensus was 16 to 17.

It's powerful. LftL and pretty much all of the NEO lands get crazy together, and if you have a legendary creature on the board, you can forget about attacking into this. Or blocking productively. Or doing much of anything with creatures.

It's not a matter of who it's intended for, it's a matter of who is going to buy it regardless of merchant intent, unfortunately. Also, when has a company looked at a money printer and thought "hmm, maybe I should only print a little bit of money?" It's obvious that this will happen again now...

And a 3 mana 2/2 with double strike is actually kind of disgusting. That's close to Disciplined Duelist. This pair looks stronger to me than Urza, and while both seem fun to draft I'm not sure if the play patterns are going to be rewarding, same as you.

Hey what the fuck. That's just rude to the artists. Is this some sort of weird RL dodge or just another case of screwing over the artists? Edit: I know that art rights work differently now and that technically WotC doesn't own the original art to these cards, but you don't have to change that...

All I'm saying is that this is some real Cube BS. That's a lie. I've got a lot to say, but mostly it's this: I'm not really offended by WotC doing this, I'm offended by the cowardly, exploitative manner in which they've chosen to do this. A literal thousand dollars for sixty cards is absurd...

I know you're probably replying to Erik more than me, but to Sigh's point it's easy enough to make "enough" counters to be functionally infinite. A 20/20 is effectively an infinity/infinity for all practical purposes, and you can easily stack pennies to get there. Anything bigger is overkill.

I like Rusje's idea a lot because I think vouchers with reminder text can convey the overall concept we want better than an abstract token like a land unless it's something very simple like "island + mountain = volcanic island."

See, I like that idea, but the reason I want my players to draft cool basics is so that those cool basics get played in their deck. While that sounds more mechanically sound, it works around the problem a little too well for me. Vouchers are a really cool idea! And I like the idea of letting...

Real talk, I've always wanted to include a land slot in my boosters to draft really sick basics. However, the problem is that you're throwing away equity by doing so, and the only solution I've been able to find is to make it a desert cube, i.e. one in which you have to draft your basics, and...