To be honest I quite like it as written.
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yeah a dragon that breathes out forests would be awesome
And once you breathe out forests it's like... of course you live in the forest.
Shouldn’t Blue Dragons be mono red, then?
The cards above are less than 25 % of all red lightning cards.[/ci][/ci]
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The fact that MTG makes lightning "red" is pretty rare in fantasy tropes. Generally "red" is fire and fire like things only, and lightning is air or water (some sort of blue) based magic. For example see Divinity: Original Sin 2 (pyro = fire, aero = air). DnD follows the more usual tropes than MTG does.
And let me just take a moment to say that "Epidemic of Fire" is a badass name for a spell.
And let me just take a moment to say that "Epidemic of Fire" is a badass name for a spell.
Chris Taylor
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I imagine lightning being red is mostly a facet of WotC's unwillingness to let any color other than red deal damage.
Lightning Bolt is probably an aerothurge spell, and that would be blue, but we can't have U: deal 3 damage.
You can kinda see this in how they're struggling with blue dragon:
Lightning gives Minus Power. Sure Wotc.
Lightning Bolt is probably an aerothurge spell, and that would be blue, but we can't have U: deal 3 damage.
You can kinda see this in how they're struggling with blue dragon:
Lightning gives Minus Power. Sure Wotc.
Treasure land. Neato. Probably will try this out in my artifact cube. It's also an artifact land...nice touch. Edit: Yikes, sorry for the massive image.
Well, if you've ever been hit with a taser, I'd imagine it's a little difficult to swing an axe?
I see the cognitive dissonance this causes but I think this interpretation is reasonable and (honestly) pretty clever way to resolve things, flavor-wise.
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Chris Taylor
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I feel like they've done decently with the tools they had and the restrictions placed on them, but I can see the holes.
This is very cool. Being an artifact land makes this more appealing, but I’m not sure it does enough for me. If you have the mana to pump into this at x>2, what are you trying to ramp into? At x=3 you go from 7 mana available to 9 mana the next turn, and you sacrificed a land and an entire turn’s worth of mana to do so. You’ll need to be taking advantage of the extra artifacts or sac triggers to get some real value out of it. This is a tough one for me to gauge. What do y’all think?
Chris Taylor
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says a lot about how poorly blightning aged
I'm pretty sure we had a conversation about this on discord the other day
There's also a non-zero chance the Faceless Haven version of this combo shows up in the next iteration of that cube
I could see a Psionic Blast style effect as lightning. Difficult to tame lightning. That said, blue already has everything. That's the real issue here.
You'll be running 1 mana land destruction if you run this.
What do you mean? I like both.
Chris Taylor
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(This is not a spoiler, obv)
I like this one with the Dark Souls / Innistrad kind of art.
Decent 1 drop for attacking black players. Decent ramp card when the 1 dmg/turn is irrelevant or when enemy has two blockers. Very difficult to block efficiently in the later stages of the game. Very difficult to attack into in the later stages of the game.
The last ability can fairly easy grant deathtouch to a small dude blocking a big dude.
Decent 1 drop for attacking black players. Decent ramp card when the 1 dmg/turn is irrelevant or when enemy has two blockers. Very difficult to block efficiently in the later stages of the game. Very difficult to attack into in the later stages of the game.
The last ability can fairly easy grant deathtouch to a small dude blocking a big dude.
Man I dig the art and love Menace on a cheap human ala Glint-Sleeve Siphoner, but it's pretty lacking as a base 1/1 for me. I think Knight of the Ebon Legion is just an all-around superior option if you're looking for a mana sink on an aggressive body. If only it was a 2/1 and a little less busy trying to make the Treasure stuff work.
I don’t fully agree although I do think Knight of the Ebon Legion is pretty powerful. The fact that this new one can buff target creature and not just itself and the fact that it has other things to do when it’s not large enough to be combat relevant anymore is super valuable. You will never have a bad turn with this on the board.
You should see how I play my turns.
I'm looking at switching to an artifact heavy build right now and I don't think this guy makes the cut. I'd loved to be convinced otherwise, but I can't see how this is worthwhile.
It’s cheap so you can sneak it out almost any turn. It has evasion for your Equipments. It can ramp you and create an artifact every turn you have 2 mana to spare. It is a boss in the late game because most of your creatures threaten to be deathtouchable.
I wouldn't run Forsworm Paladin if I were playing Wildfire. It's extremely inefficient and I can't imagine not having a better option for its slot, be it any other form of ramp or a spell or a creature that survives Wildfire.
Personally, I don't think the card is any good at any of its roles. Decks that want the 1/1 Menace don't want the one-shot ramp, decks that want the treasure don't want the creature. Spending 5 mana to give a creature +2/+0 and deathtouch is terrible, too. +2/0 and deathtouch isn't even a good combination and if you are ramping you are not using the 1/1 meance body.
Really, I don't like the card at all and would run any other black aggro drop over it.
Onderzeeboot
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4 mana, effectively, since the treasure you create recoups one of the mana spent. I'm not saying run it, but I think it's funny how all three abilities it has do in fact synergize, because giving +2/+0 and deathtouch to a 1/1 menace body actually threatens to kill both blockers, no matter their size.