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LadyMapi

LadyMapi

My big hesitation on Urza's Hot Tub is that drafting around it is going to introduce a lot of cognitive load.

Like you draft a single bomb with "the" in the name and now every card with "the" in the name is a better draft pick.
 
inscho

inscho

LadyMapi said:
My big hesitation on Urza's Hot Tub is that drafting around it is going to introduce a lot of cognitive load.

Like you draft a single bomb with "the" in the name and now every card with "the" in the name is a better draft pick.
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Yeah, I like the novelty of it, but I find even Birthing Pod to be an unwelcome additional layer of consideration in draft
 
japahn

japahn

I find these build arounds ok because you go into the deck if you're willing to do it. It's always a risk, so if you're not willing to keep track there's an easy cop-out even if it was the correct thing to do in that seat. You can always just draft good stuff, or elves.
 
sigh

sigh

Yeah fork effects are awkward in cube, and honestly in general outside specific interactions built around them. Why use a spell to copy a spell, when that copy spell could just be it's own [insert effect] in your hand.

Iteration might get closer to cubable than most have thanks to flashback, but it is a gold slot.
 
B

blacksmithy

Sea Gate Stormcaller is my Fork of choice, but i can see Iteration seeing some play and being interesting for people who are deep on the spells/magecraft archetype. i’m wary of it myself because unlike Stormcaller it doesn’t affect the board.
EDIT: and yeah being gold doesn’t help either
 
LadyMapi

LadyMapi

sigh said:
Why use a spell to copy a spell, when that copy spell could just be it's own [insert effect] in your hand.
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I feel like it depends heavily on what you're copying, honestly.

Dual Strike giving you two Lightning Bolts for RR is a waste of everyone's time. Using it alongside Harrow to ramp out four basics for 2RG and a sac'd land, on the other hand, feels solid to me.

Which makes me think that Fork effects want to be in cubes where you're running lots of cards like Cathartic Reunion (where they have some additional cost that the Fork effectively skips) or Crashing Footfalls (where casting the spell in the first place is complicated).
 
sigh

sigh

Yeah, I'd agree with that sentiment overall.

I really do like the Conjecture. Refuel your hand and then get a turn-wide copy effect that doesn't take additional mana in that moment.
 
Zoss

Zoss

Yes! I run it and love it! It works really well for me. People tend to hold it longer than they should and not use the fork, but it's still there and has done work.
 
Onderzeeboot

Onderzeeboot

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LadyMapi said:
The D&D set was weird for me, because it didn't actually use a lot of Forgotten Realms specific lore outside of some of the legendary creatures/planeswalkers.

...

Now I wish it had been an Eberron (post-WW2 pulp fantasy, with velociraptor-riding halflings, elemental-powered trains, and robot veterans) or Dark Sun (post-apocalyptic fantasy, with GIANT BUGS as one of the playable races) set.
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Eberron is a fantastic world. I played a long campaign in it, and there's a wealth of very interesting locations and NPC's, and the world feels very different from the standard fantasy (i.e. Forgotten Realms). Loved it!

Dark Sun is brutal! If DMmed in the spirit of the world, you will have to deal with controversial topics like slavery, poverty, and institutional evil, but if you can stomach those topics, it can be a very rewarding world. I played one campaign in Dark Sun, and it was very memorable (and not just because my dwarf character died to a critting scorpion and me failing my low DC saving throw, despite having advantage as a dwarf...)
 
sigh

sigh

Velrun said:
Is there any way to search for a card frame on Scryfall?
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The "criteria" box in the advanced search has some frames listed out. For example "New" is the M2015 frame, "Old" is the original 1993 frame, etc. You'll hve to dig around a bit to see if what you want is in the list.
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Velrun

Velrun

sigh said:
The "criteria" box in the advanced search has some frames listed out. For example "New" is the M2015 frame, "Old" is the original 1993 frame, etc. You'll hve to dig around a bit to see if what you want is in the list.
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Wow! What a cool feature.

There are a lot of gems to be found this way.

Do you happen to know what this one is called?

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sigh

sigh

Velrun said:
Wow! What a cool feature.

There are a lot of gems to be found this way.

Do you happen to know what this one is called?

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I couldn't find the right term in the criteria list for that frame, but you can still search for it. That is found with "frame:inverted". If you want the planeswalker watermark specifically you can add "wm: planeswalker"
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FYI, if you want to know the specific details of a card, you can click the "copy-pastable JSON button in the lower right of the card view screen:
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This gives you an output showing ALL the features used to define a specific card. like so for the inverted promo play with fire:
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],
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Brad

Brad

Is there a trick to balancing a curve that has a LOT of Cycling? Onslaught Masters in the signature. ~20% Cycling. It feels weird to have so many high MV guys, but most of them can cycle away.
 
Brad

Brad

Then everything is going to be a 1 or 2, which is inaccurate as well. I'd also be moving a bunch of creatures to "instants" cus you don't want your creature curve to look like it's all 1 drops when only half of them can attack for 1 mana.
 
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