General Custom Cards: The Lab
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I dunno about the last two (master, cruddy); also why is the kung fu master shopping?
Completely unrelatedly, thoughts on this shiny new mechanic?
Intended to be a scaling Hellbent effect (hellbent's a threshold mechanic so it has lots of problems) but I don't know how many issues this causes.
Completely unrelatedly, thoughts on this shiny new mechanic?
Intended to be a scaling Hellbent effect (hellbent's a threshold mechanic so it has lots of problems) but I don't know how many issues this causes.
Those are all ludicrously powerful. They all probably have to cost at least 1 more, if not 2, and they'd still be really strong at that price.
I like them when they make you discard cards. It's way more interesting and interactive. Maybe just change the P/Ts?
Hmm. If you play devils jester on turn one with a GB dual, then next turn discard 5 cards and berserk it, that should kill them, right?
Ah wait, doesn't work if it has the discard clause. And anyway, I think berserk is the real problem here.
Ah wait, doesn't work if it has the discard clause. And anyway, I think berserk is the real problem here.
Onderzeeboot
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Name one other creature that can (almost) kill on turn two with Berserk as your only other play. I don't think Berserk is the problem here.
I mean, the thing can still hit for 10 on turn 2 by itself.
Hellbent being a threshold mechanic really limits what you can and can't do in terms of play patterns. In particular, Hellbent rewards you for emptying your hand quickly and then just keeping it that way. Also hard to balance; the difference between on and off is typically so large that you don't have very many design decisions that make sense: see Demon's Jester, Gobhobbler Rats, Hellhole Bouncer... basically most of the cards with Hellbent.
None of that makes sense, but I'm rather tired right now so that's the best I can muster.
Also, Channel + Emrakul is ostensibly a turn 2 kill. The issue is probably the enabler, not the creature? Thus Berserk being a problem (it's not going to be in my cube). But yea, I haven't really balanced the PT that well, but I also haven't tested it; it's all just theory atm.
Also, want to keep costs as low as possible but colour requirements high as I want these to function as madness enablers as well.
Furthermore, I assume most peoples' cubes are littered with really strong 1-for-1 removal (Swords, Paths, Dismembers, whatever) so I wanted to push the toughness a little to compensate for the inherent card disadvantage these imply. Basically don't want to remake Avatar of Discord in Rav/Kami standard.
Chris Taylor
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They also read REALLY poorly
You mean that it's hard to evaluate how powerful or bad they are? Or does it just make no sense grammatically?
Chris Taylor
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First one. Like looking at that in a lack, it's difficult to parse how big they'll be.
Hell I have this problem with graft with my drafters.
Hell I have this problem with graft with my drafters.
It requires more mental circuitry to value the creature properly when its final board presense is reliant on other moving parts. Newer Drafters can have this problem with, say, Tarmogoyf.
Also, lots of people don't actually like the idea of purposely wanting fewer cards. It's pretty nonintuitive in some ways. Odyssey block was an experiment in "card disadvantage = success", and MaRo finds the experiment to be largely failed. Can't fight what the players expect.
Also, lots of people don't actually like the idea of purposely wanting fewer cards. It's pretty nonintuitive in some ways. Odyssey block was an experiment in "card disadvantage = success", and MaRo finds the experiment to be largely failed. Can't fight what the players expect.
Chris Taylor
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If you look at a graft creature, it's a 0/0. And while everyone knows that means "look at the rules text dummy", it's still another jump they need to make in the middle of a pack with 10 unfamailiar cards, 5 of which are probably shit I made up
It doesn't help that often I need a 2/1, so you get stuff like Experiment Two (See link in my sig) who's a 1/0 with graft 1 AND an activated ability.
Dumb Blue Enabler
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"I heard you like durdly synergies, so I put durdly synergies in your durdly synergies." Xhibit, Planeswalker
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You Call That A Brainstorm?!?
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No idea what the right mana cost would be for this, but it seems like a fun time.
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"I heard you like durdly synergies, so I put durdly synergies in your durdly synergies." Xhibit, Planeswalker
Alternatively...
You Call That A Brainstorm?!?
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Investigate
Storm
No idea what the right mana cost would be for this, but it seems like a fun time.
Funny you should mention Odyssey. One of my friends who would be playing this cube adores that format (3xODY, that is). But yea, these designs are pretty experimental and strange.