General Decks that have 3-0'd your cube
- Thread starter Jason Waddell
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Okay so Saber Ants is in my cube for its versatility and the sheer number of decks that it's okay in. Also it's a bit of a pet card as I've been playing with it for years. Compare to Symbiotic Elf and it's better with and against damage-based sweepers (see also the Crater Hellion in my deck; my cube has Slice and Dice, Wildfire, and so forth) and better against burn spells, but worse against Terror.
So green/white tokens/anthems can play it profitably, green/red wildfire loves it, and green/black and green/blue are both (usually) slower controlling decks that really like having a value blocker against aggro. It mostly works because so much aggro in my cube is 2/1, 2/2, and 3/1 and those all match up poorly against the ants. So if the aggro curve was 2/1 into 3/1 into 4/4 (which is substantially above average) they still kind of don't want to attack into the ants with the 4/4 because that will give you blockers for both small creatures and two extra turns to chump the 4/4. They actually have to have a removal spell and burn doesn't work.
Plus, it can attack for 2, unlike the other defensive green cards that come to mind. The cantrip ones are probably still better, but in something with as few bestow targets for Chromanticore as my list above, turning sideways is a real consideration.
On the other hand, if what aggro is typically doing on turn 4 in your cube is Hellrider or Hero of Bladehold or play and equip Umezawa's Jitte or even Desecration Demon then the ants are probably not going to be playable without some crazy synergies.
CML
Contributor
Maybe Flanking sans reminder text shouldn't be printed at common.
that card is fucking good. i imagine it's not cubeworthy, but those suspend guys were so good in that format that i think they're worth a little consideration.
FlowerSunRain
Contributor
How's shipwreck siren? Baleful strix is a reasonable card and all, but sort of unpleasantly agnostic, I was thinking of trying her.
Chris Taylor
Contributor
This weeks winner:
Another Sweet one:
This deck had play of the night:
Play of the night:
His Board: Experiment one (one counter), Cloudfin Raptor (one counter), Strangleroot Geist and another 2/1
My Board: fresh Elspeth, Knight Errant and her token
Play Domri Rade, fight strangleroot and my token. Undying Triggers, Double Evolve, swing for 10
| Twos (7) 1 Arc Trail 1 Doom Blade 1 Talisman of Dominance 1 Soul Reap 1 Miscalculation 1 Mana Leak 1 Baleful Strix Threes (3) 1 Blightning 1 Shadowmage Infiltrator 1 Rolling Earthquake Fours (5) 1 Chandra, Pyromaster 1 Ral Zarek 2 Damnnation 1 Murderous Redcap Fives (3) 1 Shriekmaw 1 Puppeteer Clique 1 Muldrifter Six and Above (4) 1 Cruel Ultimatum 1 Karn Liberated 1 Consecrated Sphinx 1 Frost Titan | Lands (8) 1 Misty Rainforest 1 Blood Crypt 1 Badlands 1 Bloodstained Mire 1 Watery Grave 1 Flooded Strand 1 Shelldock Isle 1 Brass Cave #Pay 1 life terramorphic expanse, enters untapped |
Another Sweet one:
| Ones (9) 2 Brainstorm 1 Rancor 1 dryad militant 1 cloudfin raptor 1 goblin guide 1 grim lavamancer 1 experiment one 1 stromkirk noble Twos (8) 1 riddlesmith #but any spell 1 incinerate 1 lotus cobra 1 Sigiled Skink #but can't be blocked by 1 guy, and loots instead of scry 1 Field Researcher #U1 2/1 Draw a card 1 strangleroot geist 1 gore-house chainwalker 1 Ghor Clan Rampager #Might be too good Threes and Above (8) 1 awakening zone #brought in, went down to 15 lands 1 flames of the firebrand 1 courser of kruphix 1 Edric, spymaster of trest 1 Prophetic Flamespeaker 1 Trygon Predator 1 Domri Rade 1 Jace, the Mind Sculptor | Lands (7) 1 Steam Vents 1 Stomping Grounds 1 Tropical Island 1 Breeding Pool 1 Arid Mesa 2 Wooded Foothills |
This deck had play of the night:
Play of the night:
His Board: Experiment one (one counter), Cloudfin Raptor (one counter), Strangleroot Geist and another 2/1
My Board: fresh Elspeth, Knight Errant and her token
Play Domri Rade, fight strangleroot and my token. Undying Triggers, Double Evolve, swing for 10
honk honk spells
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Charmbreaker Devils costs 6 but it was doing something weird and putting it halfway down instead of at the top of the column so I just moved it.
Awkward lifegain stall game ended when devils punched in for 20something on top of burn spells + multiple mystic speculations.
Six-man today, so we ran teams, and no actual 3-0 emerged. But this deck felt like the closest to a winner!
alright I'm gonna type up some of the other 2-1 decks until I get sick of typing
Delver Deck Wins
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alright I'm gonna type up some of the other 2-1 decks until I get sick of typing
Monogreen Animals
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How did you win a single game with this why are you on my team
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Dom Harvey
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3-0ed my friend's normal unpowered Cube with this:
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wow that deck is awesome. Just curious, how much work would you say Life from the Loam did on your average game?
Dom Harvey
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A lot; most of my games were won via Strip Mine recursion (including one game that went T1 land Diamond Explore -> Strip Mine, T2 Loam)
Value Country
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It's a Ninja!
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The latter deck was drafted by a guy who hasn't played Magic ten times yet, and up to this point was mostly drafting monocolour durdle decks. To say that he took us by surprise by coming out of nowhere with this tempo showcase tonight would be an understatement. I'm not even sure he realizes what he's done!
Onderzeeboot
Ecstatic Orb
That tempo deck looks so sweet to play!
You run Double Ninja???
Yeah, I just recently doubled up on it, in an attempt to make blue aggro/tempo a Thing.
Some small but sweet lines I realized while picking up my friend's deck after he left:
- Phantasmal Bear can be a ninja
- Phantasmal Bear can totally be best buddies with a Tandem Lookout
Where Delver failed, Bear is picking up the slack. He might as well be Isamaru.
Some small but sweet lines I realized while picking up my friend's deck after he left:
- Phantasmal Bear can be a ninja
- Phantasmal Bear can totally be best buddies with a Tandem Lookout
Where Delver failed, Bear is picking up the slack. He might as well be Isamaru.
Heh. As I was drafting the deck, I thought, "This is the kind of thing Lucas might dig." You're right that Eternal Witness was not at its best in this permanent-heavy deck, but all of the other value creatures more than pulled their weight. Especially Restoration Angel, eating attackers while blinking just about anything.