Any experiences with Brago, King Eternal or Grenzo, Dungeon Warden?
General How do YOU plan to use the various Conspiracy cards?
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Onderzeeboot
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Grenzo was picked but left out of the final 40 due to manabase considerations. Brago hasn't been drafted yet here. I expect Grenzo to be fun and powerful, and Brago to be fun but not as powerful.
FlowerSunRain
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Grenzo is fucking nuts. He's got the best base stats of any X creature, plus his ability is an incredibly powerful (if inconsistent) mana sink.
I want him for more +1/+1 counter support, and graveyard shenanigans support. But actually he doesn't do anything with graveyard shenanigans, except putting things in your graveyard a little bit. Not very synergistic there, I think.
Grillo_Parlante
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He interacts well with a lot of the anti-graveyard cards: terminus, hallowed burial ect. Also works well with scry.
For the record if I were to include any cards they would be:
Cogwork Librarian (paper cube only)
Grenzo, Dungeon Warden
My problem with Grenzo is that I really need to gold slots for theme support (Falkenrath, Sarkhan), and although he's a "nice to have" he really doesn't fit in with my current design. He's probably a good E-Domain fit.
Onderzeeboot
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As of today, my cube runs the following Conspiracy cards:
Paliano has been interesting, especially when picked early. The opponent to your right has to name a color first, and he generally doesn't want to name a color he's in. If he names a color you were drafting, you can name another color, or a splash color. And than you get another color from your left neighbour! Painless! Untapped! The signaling is actually awesome, since you are trying to signal anyways during a draft, since you don't want to be fighting over a color with your neighbour. I'm telling you, this card played way better than I had anticipated.
Paliano has been interesting, especially when picked early. The opponent to your right has to name a color first, and he generally doesn't want to name a color he's in. If he names a color you were drafting, you can name another color, or a splash color. And than you get another color from your left neighbour! Painless! Untapped! The signaling is actually awesome, since you are trying to signal anyways during a draft, since you don't want to be fighting over a color with your neighbour. I'm telling you, this card played way better than I had anticipated.
I play these:
Cogwork obviously rocks and Deal Broker is nice too. It's actually playable in your final 40 and provides a fun auction afterwards. I'm surprised more people don't play Magister, it's really easy to splash and it's quite powerful. Dack's Duplicate is really nutty. Copying their best creature and getting the first attack is huge, plus the dethrone comes up quite often. We've already seen it in action with Kitchen Finks.
Cogwork obviously rocks and Deal Broker is nice too. It's actually playable in your final 40 and provides a fun auction afterwards. I'm surprised more people don't play Magister, it's really easy to splash and it's quite powerful. Dack's Duplicate is really nutty. Copying their best creature and getting the first attack is huge, plus the dethrone comes up quite often. We've already seen it in action with Kitchen Finks.
Onderzeeboot
Ecstatic Orb
I dislike the will of the council wording for 1v1.
CML
Contributor
bad fit in e-domain for power-level reasons imo, X will be reasonably large and he'll just end the game. grenzo needs to be in a format more constrained with mana and the only cubes for which this is true are the higher power ones on here.
i dunno, i like this set. dack's duplicate is sweet. selvala is sweet.
That card doesn't say "trample" anywhere on it. Grenzo seems completely fine for E-Domain in my opinion. Definitely worth at least a test run. Same with Genesis Hydra. Genesis Hydra's sweet, sugary goodness.
Dom Harvey
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Grenzo is delightful. It closes out the game in an unpredictable (and unriggable) way and is just good fun overall.
Hallowed Burial, untap, Grenzo, go to town.
Well having a way to make hallowed burial a little less good from time to time seems fine to me.
CML
Contributor
i wish jtms +2 fatesealed the bottom. it would be combination of fateseal + ed glosser, trivial psychic.
"THE GAME IS GOING TO GO 40 TURNS. you're gonna draw a squadron hawk. you're gonna wish that YOU'D ARRANGED THAT WINDBRISK A LITTLE DIFFERENT."
Chris Taylor
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Chris Taylor
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How have people's experiences with this card been?
In its first time seeing action in an admittedly awkward five-man draft, Worldknit ran the table pretty decisively. From what I could tell, the things that made it good at a small table:
1) There were less people in specific colour combinations, allowing the Worldknit player to scoop up lots of powerful gold cards
2) There aren't very many narrow, archetype-specific cards in cube, nor flat-out bad cards, meaning that every card the pilot was forced to slot in was at least somewhat decent - there are no Grixis Illusionists or Pillarfield Oxen in cube
Curious as to how this matches up with other people's observations!
Chris Taylor
Contributor
How have people's experiences with this card been?
In its first time seeing action in an admittedly awkward five-man draft, Worldknit ran the table pretty decisively. From what I could tell, the things that made it good at a small table:
1) There were less people in specific colour combinations, allowing the Worldknit player to scoop up lots of powerful gold cards
2) There aren't very many narrow, archetype-specific cards in cube, nor flat-out bad cards, meaning that every card the pilot was forced to slot in was at least somewhat decent - there are no Grixis Illusionists or Pillarfield Oxen in cube
Curious as to how this matches up with other people's observations!
1) It makes your draft BAD. Like real bad. Like trying to draft an aggro deck and having to play wrath of god and gristlebrand bad.
2) Wasteland OP
3) Every single drafter said A) It's awesome, B) it's super overpowered but don't take it out and C) man how did you go 2-5 with this deck?
I think my playgroup still needs to learn a thing or two about drafting
But hey, I don't run any of conspiracies anymore (Complexity creep) so bonus I guess?