Onderzeeboot
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I mean, come one. Look at that art! SDDR is glorious!
Sets [IKO] Ikoria: Lair of Behemoths
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I mean, come one. Look at that art! SDDR is glorious!
The colors of the ultimatums?
You mean the wedge colors (Abzan, Jeskai, Mardu, Sultai & Temur)?
They were the only 5 tri-color combinations left if Wizards were to complete the Shards of Alara ultimatums from 2008.
Onderzeeboot
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The joke was they spoiled exactly all of the black Ultimatums and none of the nonblack Ultimatums yesterday, and Brad has a black cube
Onderzeeboot
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Gain 5 life, deal 5 damage to any target, draw 5 cards.
That's a lot of value!
Your pal Velrun always has you covered on the tokens!
Here are the Ikoria: Lair of the Behemoths tokens:
https://magic.wizards.com/en/articles/archive/card-preview/tokens-ikoria-and-c20-2020-04-09
In the link you will also find the Commander Ikoria tokens.
Here are the Ikoria: Lair of the Behemoths tokens:
https://magic.wizards.com/en/articles/archive/card-preview/tokens-ikoria-and-c20-2020-04-09
In the link you will also find the Commander Ikoria tokens.
Holy crap! This feels like a super good signpost for the kind of untap super ramp I like in UG, especially with that second ability. I hope it shouldn't be too good thanks to being boltable?
Chris Taylor
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Oh I was just about to write that I was going to combine it with cards like arbor elf and voyaging satyr and then it dawned one what you just said
Man I completely missed that Eerie Ultimatum was permanents and not just creatures haha
But at the same time, I rarely see many planeswalkers in these colors, although I don't play Elspeth, Sun's Nemesis, or Garruk, Cursed Huntsman so I could see it fetching those. Eerie could also be a sweet payoff for a Life from the Loam package... if I ran that and fetchlands.
But yeah I agree, Eerie is more bang for your buck, while Nethroi, Apex of Death is slottable into more decks, neither is really better than the other. (although right now I'm leaning more towards Nethroi based on my environment)
Chris Taylor
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I think this was spoiled as part of the fake commander precons?
I liked it then and I like it now, though I'm not sure if I have room
I'm always in the market for flexible bad removal!
They're here...
Ohh! That's bananas. I'm actually a little disappointed that we're getting yet another half-completed cycle. Would've really wanted enemy cycling duals
I'm quite happy with fetchable Tri-Lands. I run a handful of squadron land picks in my cube where drafting a card gets you an associated land with them. Regular ETB tapped lands have been okay for tri-color, but they've been lacking in many scenarios. Gameplay wise they kind of suck unless you play them early and I'm glad to be able to make the swap for these where I can. The fetchability and cycling utility are going to be great:
This definitely makes including 3 color cards less taxing, some actual incentive to pick up the fixing now. But it's another cycle I'll have to wait for completion though, probably not for another 5+ years.
This definitely makes including 3 color cards less taxing, some actual incentive to pick up the fixing now. But it's another cycle I'll have to wait for completion though, probably not for another 5+ years.
They're here...
You should have spoiled them to all weeks ago
I am so happy that you were right!
They are absolutely beautiful!
Ohh! That's bananas. I'm actually a little disappointed that we're getting yet another half-completed cycle. Would've really wanted enemy cycling duals
They can never give you a fully complete cycle first. They have to start 50 % before they can 100 %.
A set does not support all 10 Guilds or all 10 Shards/Khans/Triomes but only half of them.
And then they always have to decide between:
1. Finish a half-completed cycle
2. Start a new cycle up half-completed
3. Not do dual lands
I think it is fair that Wizards decide on no. 2 every now and then before completing all cycles 100 %. That would be boring.
And by never I don’t mean never but you know what I mean..
For my cube this set is 9/10. I need half the set. Flavor/lore/feelings is way lower because I dislike asian giga monsters. Overall 8/10.
I would agree, but there's one asian gigamonster that has always managed to sail it's way into my heart:
Gotta love some good old-fashioned imperialism!*
*(That was sarcastic. If Star Wars has taught us anything, it's that Imperialism is bad)
I'm really hot to see tri color black cards, but I don't know if I want to touch mutate or companion yet.
I'm a little mad that the UB deck is flash unless they continue to expand on that in the future. I did a scryfall search and didn't see much at my power level. It's either Clique and Snapcaster or it's 3/2 flyers for 4.
Overall, though, I agree that it's an excellent set. We even got a Death Corona and Gloom Pangolin.
Barring something crazy being spoiled in the next 24 hours, my includes from the two sets are the following:
I'm honestly not a huge fan of the mechanics of this set. Mutate is messy, keyword counters are going to be annoying to keep track of, and Partner get a big no from me in terms of unneeded complexity in paper magic. Aside from the removal spell, the rest of the cards listed above help to supplement existing archetypes or bridge certain themes together.
I've already shouted out Verge Rangers but I really love the design of this and how well it slots into a variety of white decks playing different roles all throughout, couldn't be happier with it. I like that Rielle work well with UR Spells decks and any kind of looting/self-mill type gameplay you might have in a URx shell. Dom's brief post on it earlier in this thread got my wheels turning and I cannot wait for the first time I draw 4 cards off of upticking my copy of Daretti, Scrap Savant or netting two new cards every time I loot on my opponents turn. The whale is also excellent slotting into either URx shells or even UBx shells with more of a graveyard theme as a flying threat in the late game you can deploy for cheap and rebuy spells with. It seems really promising. Drannith will be a house in WB Human decks and is a tidy package of hate bundled into a decent sized old man. Fiend Artisan will slot nicely into graveyard themed decks as a weird Tarmogoyf variant and will play very well with effects like Satyr Wayfinder and Winding Way filling up the graveyard.
I'm actually glad that there are so few cards that piqued my interest this time around; the last two sets have been goldmines and I haven't had the chance (nor will I for a while) to really test out all of the additions that have been made in the last few months. Still, these are very enticing and I can't wait to see them in action in a few months!
I'm honestly not a huge fan of the mechanics of this set. Mutate is messy, keyword counters are going to be annoying to keep track of, and Partner get a big no from me in terms of unneeded complexity in paper magic. Aside from the removal spell, the rest of the cards listed above help to supplement existing archetypes or bridge certain themes together.
I've already shouted out Verge Rangers but I really love the design of this and how well it slots into a variety of white decks playing different roles all throughout, couldn't be happier with it. I like that Rielle work well with UR Spells decks and any kind of looting/self-mill type gameplay you might have in a URx shell. Dom's brief post on it earlier in this thread got my wheels turning and I cannot wait for the first time I draw 4 cards off of upticking my copy of Daretti, Scrap Savant or netting two new cards every time I loot on my opponents turn. The whale is also excellent slotting into either URx shells or even UBx shells with more of a graveyard theme as a flying threat in the late game you can deploy for cheap and rebuy spells with. It seems really promising. Drannith will be a house in WB Human decks and is a tidy package of hate bundled into a decent sized old man. Fiend Artisan will slot nicely into graveyard themed decks as a weird Tarmogoyf variant and will play very well with effects like Satyr Wayfinder and Winding Way filling up the graveyard.
I'm actually glad that there are so few cards that piqued my interest this time around; the last two sets have been goldmines and I haven't had the chance (nor will I for a while) to really test out all of the additions that have been made in the last few months. Still, these are very enticing and I can't wait to see them in action in a few months!
Chris Taylor
Contributor
Give me a bit, yeeshOhh! That's bananas. I'm actually a little disappointed that we're getting yet another half-completed cycle. Would've really wanted enemy cycling duals
Onderzeeboot
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Yesterday I was like: these trilands are perfect for my 3-color cube! This morning I'm like, won't that lead to too many 4- or 5-color good stuff in combination with the fetches in my environment, instead of more 3 color decks?