Sets [M15] Magic 2015 Spoilers

GenericZero

GenericZero

Goldenpineapple said:
I think you can price their abilities compared to other cards, but not really the cards as a whole, no. That's why I likened soul of shandalar to kamahl- disregarding their activated abilities and wondering how oppressive a 6-power 6-drop with first strike is.

Come on, man. That's kind of insulting. CLEARLY they aren't the same card, but both cost 6 and have 6 first strike damage. I just don't see how the first strike is what makes it "pushed." Does flying make the blue one pushed?

I honestly feel like the Soul cycle suffers from having to conform to cyclical standards. Reach and Deathtouch are really pathetic compared to the other abilities overall, but there's really no helping it because it's a core set and magic only has so many evergreens.


Making 2/1s for 4 instead of 1/1s for 3 is a pretty reasonable difference. If mobilization made 2/1s it would be insane. Not pack rat insane but still pretty damn powerful.

BUT {G}=/={W} So I shouldn't have brought up heliod to begin with, really.
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Sorry if I come off as attempting to rail you with the mercilessness signature of our very own CML, but allow me to reiterate. I feel as though first strike makes it pushed because it just completely trumps the other members of the cycle. At least all the rest trade with each other(unless you're white and you get to activate that ability). Not to mention as a big fan of red in general(it's my favorite color), I think I would have just liked haste better... Especially since first strike on a 6/6 makes killing it through creature combat virtually impossible(especially with that activated ability). It just feels like the best you can muster is a lucky trade unless you have a kill spell. I guess I'm also kind of making myself look a bit dumb here since I also said the black one should get intimidate(which would also make killing it with creature combat near impossible), but at least if they have to go on the defensive they don't have a wall that kills anything it blocks AND can burn you out to win the game.

On the note of the green Soul, I guess two 3/3s is a bit much...but at LEAST give me a 4/4...

PS: Just to be difficult, Mobilization isn't a creature. It's much harder to interact with as far as removal goes. Try finding a creature...
 
CML

CML

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I enjoy the cycle in general and man does that green one suck

edit: the blue one sucks too

edit: they might all suck

edit: maybe we're all fine then
 
Onderzeeboot

Onderzeeboot

Ecstatic Orb
I hope to open the red one on the prerelease, it seems bonkers hard to deal with unless you have a Terror effect. Pacifism isn't really cutting it either. First Strike on a 6/6 is indeed nuts.
 
FlowerSunRain

FlowerSunRain

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Jace seems reasonablish. You probably need graveyard synergy for him to really do hard work, but a wise man once said (about another card, but it applies):

CML said:
nah it's useless without those, but it's a moot point because GOOD GOD MAN PUT THE GY INTERACTIONS BACK IN
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GenericZero

GenericZero

New Jace is terrible. How does becoming the living guildpact make you suck so much? WHY COULDN'T HIS +1 BE THOUGHT SCOUR??? OR A WORSE VERSION OF THOUGHT SCOUR??? Who in their right mind thought people would want a Jace that can't even draw cards unless he is using his ult? His +1 isn't worth 4 mana even if you use it 3 times and play a deck filled with flashback goods.
 
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anotak

anotak

if his +1 was thought scour he'd be pretty absurd everything else being the same

but yeah i'm pretty unimpressed with this card. i'm never saying never about a planeswalker unless it is tibalt though.

also for the record i've been messing this in one of my custom cube projects before this jace +1 got spoiled

UB walker {1}{U}{B}
Planeswalker
+1: Look at the top three cards of your library, then put one back and the rest into your graveyard.
-1: Until your next turn, target creature gets -5/-0.
-4: Exchange your graveyard and library. Then shuffle your library.
Starting Loyalty: 3
 
Grillo_Parlante

Grillo_Parlante

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GenericZero said:
New Jace is terrible. How does becoming the living guildpact make you suck so much? WHY COULDN'T HIS +1 BE THOUGHT SCOUR??? OR A WORSE VERSION OF THOUGHT SCOUR??? Who in their right mind thought people would want a Jace that can't even draw cards unless he is using his ult? His +1 isn't worth 4 mana even if you use it 3 times and play a deck filled with flashback goods.
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He is pretty close to being the perfect blue planeswalker for my cube ;)
 
Laz

Laz

Developer
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I think I am going to keep Gorehouse Chainwalker because of the ridiculous name and visuals, but this girl can block!
 
Eric Chan

Eric Chan

Hyalopterous Lemure
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Is this remotely viable? Seems a little expensive at {1}{B} per activation. But you get to draw a card, which puts it on a level above straight-up looting if you're trying to discard reanimator targets or Vengevines. Then if you have the zombie deck, it gets even better!
 
CML

CML

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Eric Chan said:
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Is this remotely viable? Seems a little expensive at {1}{B} per activation. But you get to draw a card, which puts it on a level above straight-up looting if you're trying to discard reanimator targets or Vengevines. Then if you have the zombie deck, it gets even better!
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my initial thought is it's too narrow, but obviously there is to be a proxy and test
 
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