Yeah... I really don't get this. It's a head-scratcher, and kinda undoes a lot of the work they did on synergy in Oath. I guess we'll have to see how it plays out in draft, but it's still a confusing direction to take.
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Yeah... I really don't get this. It's a head-scratcher, and kinda undoes a lot of the work they did on synergy in Oath. I guess we'll have to see how it plays out in draft, but it's still a confusing direction to take.
Here's why cohort is showing up now: If you're going to have an ally-based mechanic that's a bit poisonous, it's better to have it in the second set when there will be the most allies available in Standard. It's a terrible cube mechanic obviously, but there are people who love allies, so why not let them have some fun for kitchen table shenanigans.
I suspect Mark Rosewater had a huge hand in this, as he describes in his column from yesterday. He went so far as to say that the four oath enchantments in the upcoming set are modelled after the oaths that Justice League members take when joining the team.
http://magic.wizards.com/en/articles/archive/making-magic/solemn-oath-part-2-2016-01-04
Chris Taylor
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Also, don't ever believe for a second this is the last parasitic mechanic. Just because it's harder to shove in your cube doesn't make it unusable.
On the other hand:
Is this brimaz 2.0 or just what we've been looking for?
On the other hand:
Is this brimaz 2.0 or just what we've been looking for?
I wasnt gonna get anything from this set and then that happened. Goodbye forever tarmogoyf.
Onderzeeboot
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Also, don't ever believe for a second this is the last parasitic mechanic. Just because it's harder to shove in your cube doesn't make it unusable.
On the other hand:
Is this brimaz 2.0 or just what we've been looking for?
Wow. 5/5 trampling ape villages o_O
And 4/3 flying conclaves. How about naya with 4/3 double striking spires? This card is awesome
Dom Harvey
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Chris Taylor
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Life, somewhat unintuitively, kills people
Onderzeeboot
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Man, Life//Death is already in my cube... o_O
Without life there would be no death, so yes, it IS life that kills people.
I want that 2/3 so badly in my cube that I even consider adding the cc5 Nissa that blacksmithy suggested to me in the Single Card thread instead of Garruk Wildspeaker who seems to be a bit boring in comparison.
I want that 2/3 so badly in my cube that I even consider adding the cc5 Nissa that blacksmithy suggested to me in the Single Card thread instead of Garruk Wildspeaker who seems to be a bit boring in comparison.
Onderzeeboot
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As if anyone needed more incentive
Yeah... I cut that one from my cube after it won a few too many games on it's ridiculous and ridiculously easy to achieve ultimate.
I really like wildspeaker too btw! But if you dont have bouncelands, land enchantments, or cloudposts, he becomes less spicy and more like a loaded baked potato - great but bland.
Gah now i wanna make a cube where you can go lands.dek in every color combo. Dangit Riptide!
Gah now i wanna make a cube where you can go lands.dek in every color combo. Dangit Riptide!
I had Koth for a long while, but he wasn't too exciting. You only want him in one deck, he usually just animates a dude and bashes in before you create your emblem and ping the opponent to death. There just wasn't a whole lot of play to it. I've since gone with Chandra, Pyromaster and Sarkhan, the Dragonspeaker and they've both been way more interesting to play; Chandra as a sweet card in both aggro and grindier decks, Sarkhan as a finisher that isn't completely uninteractive.
That's the current cube I'm building! Doing a 'lands matter'/eldrazi theme. I'm trying to make a cube where topdecking lands doesn't feel bad.
Also, don't ever believe for a second this is the last parasitic mechanic. Just because it's harder to shove in your cube doesn't make it unusable.
On the other hand:
Is this brimaz 2.0 or just what we've been looking for?
Oh man I love this!
Chris Taylor
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See, I wanna like it 2, since 2/3 for 2 is one of my favorite little vanilla dorks, but part of me wonders weather I like this card because it's blatantly powerful in ways I'm not sure my cube needs (Like for Eg, I planned on adding all 10 manlands once this set came out once I found out they were finishing the cycle. But I'm also noticing that that's leading to a lot of onboard complexity, and that I should probably cut it back to the ones I had in originally.) or weather it's actually a sweet card.
Yeah, that's the downside I've been wondering about. It's clearly 1) a sweet and cool effect, and 2) a nice alternative to the 3/2 and 2/2 bodies that you see for most green 2 drops, but when you combine both of those things, are you getting a card that's pushed enough to invalidate a bunch of other cool cards 'tiders are running?
Chris Taylor
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I think I'll probably design a custom card like "I thought not" over there, unless some testing convinces me that the bananna mana guys are totally doable.
Bearer of Silence on the other hand is the opposite of what I want in a nekrataal: can't pod it, can't block, gets your opponent's worst creature, and Costs B and <>.
On the other hand, it's a semi decent beatdown creature on its own, so maybe it gets in as a 2 drop with upside?
That fucking flavor text though
Bearer of Silence on the other hand is the opposite of what I want in a nekrataal: can't pod it, can't block, gets your opponent's worst creature, and Costs B and <>.
On the other hand, it's a semi decent beatdown creature on its own, so maybe it gets in as a 2 drop with upside?
That fucking flavor text though
Onderzeeboot
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That flavor text is a win
Hey, guys, if you wanted to see a Spoiler Spotlight on one card, which one would it be?