General The Constructed thread

[Dom Harvey]

Currently looking at this for Standard:

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4 Thragtusk
4 Farseek
4 Azorius Charm
2 AEtherling
3 Sphinx's Revelation
3 Urban Evolution
1 Ranger's Path
3 Augur of Bolas
4 Supreme Verdict
2 Dissipate
2 Think Twice
1 Oblivion Ring
1 Terminus
4 Breeding Pool
4 Hallowed Fountain
4 Temple Garden
4 Hinterland Harbor
4 Glacial Fortress
3 Sunpetal Grove
2 Cavern of Souls
1 Alchemist's Refuge
SB: 2 Terminus
SB: 4 Voice of Resurgence
SB: 2 Clone
SB: 2 Renounce the Guilds
SB: 1 Negate
SB: 1 Dispel
SB: 1 Essence Scatter
SB: 1 Alchemist's Refuge
SB: 1 Oblivion Ring

but I'll be looking intently at this after M14 comes out:

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4 Goblin Electromancer
4 Hidden Strings
4 Krenko's Command
4 Young Pyromancer
4 Battle Hymn
1 Infernal Plunge
3 Burn at the Stake
3 Past in Flames
4 Faithless Looting
1 Reforge the Soul
3 Augur of Bolas
3 Molten Birth
4 Steam Vents
4 Sulfur Falls
4 Hallowed Fountain
1 Izzet Guildgate
1 Glacial Fortress
8 Mountain
SB: 2 Reforge the Soul
SB: 4 Boros Reckoner
SB: 4 Pillar of Flame
SB: 1 Augur of Bolas
SB: 1 Rally the Peasants
SB: 3 Dispel

and experimenting with this for Modern:

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4 Manamorphose
4 Infernal Tutor
4 Lotus Bloom
4 Pyretic Ritual
4 Desperate Ritual
4 Faithless Looting
4 Grapeshot
4 Goblin Electromancer
4 Gitaxian Probe
3 Past in Flames
1 Empty the Warrens
3 Sleight of Hand
4 Scalding Tarn
1 Blood Crypt
1 Watery Grave
3 Steam Vents
1 Island
1 Mountain
3 Misty Rainforest
2 Blackcleave Cliffs
1 Shivan Reef
SB: 2 Empty the Warrens
SB: 4 Thoughtseize
SB: 2 Molten Slagheap
SB: 2 Ignite Memories
SB: 2 Dismember
SB: 2 Reforge the Soul
SB: 2 Into the Roil

CML needs to get his Martyr-loving statist ass in here so I can sing odes to Vizkopa Guildmage.

 

[Jason Waddell]

I need a Modern deck for the GP in Antwerp in October. I'd like something compact and punchy.

 

[Eric Chan]

I need to get on this decklist tags thing. Those spoiler tags are hideous

 

[CML]

Jason: I humbly recommend what Jacob Van Lunen called 'by far [his] favorite deck to come out of the modern PTQ season'

Updated list here: http://magic.tcgplayer.com/db/deck.asp?deck_id=1100424 -- unfortunately, I have met zero other people that can win with it. So there's always my stand-by for every other format, viz. aggro. Gruul Zoo is probably your best bet there (http://puremtgo.com/articles/becoming-modern-man-gruul-zoo)

 

[Jason Waddell]

The Jacob Van Lunen deck is your Martyr deck?

 

[CML]

http://www.wizards.com/magic/magazine/article.aspx?x=mtg/daily/pr/238

whose orzhov lifegain? CML's orzhov lifegain!!

so vizkopa guildmage had just come out and my old mtgo buddy told me to toss em in martyr to "nug em for 21." the rest of the inclusions were obvious enough. fwiw not only had nobody played it before, nobody has played it since

 

[Dom Harvey]

It looks interesting. WoG seems a bit out of place?

 

[CML]

nah wrath is a natural fit. f em and their creatures. like soul sisters has a rough time coming back from being behind and this kind of reset button is very good as a stabilizer early on for non-martyr hands v. aggro and as a oops-i-win kind of thing later on against whatever. back in the heyday of combo pod and splinter twin it was even good with blind obedience. i was gonna type that it's also good against melira pod but then i realized we just always lose anyway

 

[Jason Waddell]

I was waiting at city hall this morning and had the urge to build a terrible modern deck around the following:

 

[HannesVersmissen]

Jason: I call Burning-tree emissary, Death's Shadow And Vexing devils

Edit: Talara's Battalion,Sheltering Ancient,Phyrexian soulgorger and Force of Savagery ?
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ruinous minotaur

 

[VincePendrell]

Joraga Treespeaker also grants you 2 mana on turn two to cast Superion

 

[Jason Waddell]

I had thought about Joraga Treespeaker and Burning-Tree Emissary too, but uh.. eh. The whole deck seems pretty eh. What I'll actually start doing is directing my Magic funds towards the UWR staples. Probably. I would love to play a Shaman / Cobra deck, but playing green in modern seems like a losing proposition if you don't have the funds for Tarmogoyf.

 

[Dom Harvey]

There was a BTE/Priest of Urabrask/Superion/Vengevine deck that was pretty fun, though it also had Goyf.

 

[Jason Waddell]

Mm... Vengevine, that's some interesting tech. Faithless looting too?

 

[Dom Harvey]

https://twitter.com/Grapplingfarang/status/310946080982462465/photo/1

 

[Jason Waddell]

Yeah, that's much less gimmicky than what I was thinking. I do wonder if there's room for Vexing Devils and Varolz in a list like that.

 

[Dom Harvey]

The best home for Varolz is probably something like:

4 Varolz
4 Ranger of Eos
4 Death's Shadow
1 Hex Parasite

With Thoughtseize, Dismember etc.

 

[Jason Waddell]

Sam Black's Legacy deck looks incredibly fun.

 

[Jason Waddell]

I have the store credit to be able to finish off this deck at the start of the month:

I think I'll start with Modern there and slowly pick up the cards for the Geist UWR deck.

 

[Dom Harvey]

Sam Black is awesome.

To troll people in Legacy, I recommend:

4 Show and Tell
4 Progenitus
4 Griselbrand
1 Worldspine Wurm
4 Nefarious Lich
4 Nourishing Shoal
4 Dark Ritual
4 Brainstorm
2 Ponder
2 Lim-Dul's Vault
1 Sickening Dreams
3 Thoughtseize

4 Lotus Petal
1 Chrome Mox
4 Ebon Stronghold/Peat Bog
4 Polluted Delta
3 Bloodstained Mire
3 Underground Sea
1 Swamp
<lands>

 

[Jason Waddell]

Err, scrap the Revelation list. I don't want to buy Cryptics and Revelations right now. In the meantime, I can throw together a crappy Tribal Flames list without buying any cards I don't need for the eventual UWR Geist deck:

Tribal:
4 Arid Mesa
2 Misty Rainforest
2 Scalding Tarn
2 Marsh Flats
2 Verdant Catacombs
1 Hallowed Fountain
1 Temple Garden
1 Stomping Ground
1 Steam Vents
1 Blood Crypt
1 Godless Shrine
1 Plains
1 Mountain
1 Forest

4 Kird Ape
4 Steppe Lynx
3 Deathrite Shaman
4 Snapcaster Mage
4 Geist of Saint Traft
2 Qasali Pridemage


4 Lightning Bolt
4 Lightning Helix
4 Path to Exile
4 Tribal Flames
2 Elspeth, Knight-Errant

 

[CML]

Hi guys I scrubbed the Invi due to jet-lag, idiocy, bad luck etc. so I'm back in here to theorycraft

I think 5c Zoo is OK in modern, though I definitely want 2-3 Ghor-Clan Rampager. Melira Pod is a bad and pervasive matchup (and the best shell for Varolz, you goofs -- sac outlets at 1/2/3), so ideally the Ooze will keep em in check. Also play 4 Deathrites man come on. Some amount of Loam Lion might also be right

Probably best not to play fair Blue in Modern

Dom's decks are magnificent

 

[Jason Waddell]

I think 5c Zoo is OK in modern, though I definitely want 2-3 Ghor-Clan Rampager. Melira Pod is a bad and pervasive matchup (and the best shell for Varolz, you goofs -- sac outlets at 1/2/3), so ideally the Ooze will keep em in check. Also play 4 Deathrites man come on. Some amount of Loam Lion might also be right

Yeah, the idea behind 5C Zoo was to spend $0 on cards that I don't need for UWR and have a deck for a month. Unfortunately it looks like my article this week is getting bumped to Thursday (read: next month), so I won't have the credit to build the zoo deck. A 4th Deathrite would have required buying a 4th Deathrite.

Also, there's no room for Loam Lion with Deathrite around. The CFB Player's Championship version played 10 1-drops (4 Ape, 4 Lynx, 2 Loam Lion), but something has to go to make room for Deathrites.

 

[Jason Waddell]

How awful is it to play the wrong fetchlands in Modern? i.e. running 2 Scalding Tarn + 2 Misty Rainforest in UWR instead of 4 Scalding Tarn

 

[Dom Harvey]

It's not good if you're actually in those colours. It's especially bad for something like Twin, where paying 3 life instead of 1 to get your third R for Kiki or w/e might actually matter.