Onderzeeboot
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I don't dislike Hagon, though I don't particularly like him either. I'm starting to like Suthcliffe, and I love LSV's pun overload 
General The Pro Tour Sucks
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Chris Taylor
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Still no Tobi Wan Kinobi
Aoret
Developer
I can't remember the exact genesis of it, but somebody made hating him cool like a year or two ago. (let's be honest, it was probably CML)
To me he's just a dweeb, I have nothing against dweebs. I don't think it's cool to hate on him.
I dunno, I've openly expressed a strong disliking for him on quite a few occasions. Something about him just clashes with my very existence in a bad way.
Dom Harvey
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here's an excellent introduction: http://blog.killgoldfish.com/2011/07/book-grinder-brad-nelson-story-by-rich.html
Magic is on Vice today. Compares and contrasts the lifestyles of Pro Tour grinders and Vintage players.
http://www.vice.com/video/the-mystical-universe-of-magic-the-gathering-000
http://www.vice.com/video/the-mystical-universe-of-magic-the-gathering-000
Onderzeeboot
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That was entertaining!
I don't usually say this kind of thing, but damn guys, Thea Steele is a babe.
Also, "The game is just so polished, so well made, it might just be the best game ever made."
Also, "The game is just so polished, so well made, it might just be the best game ever made."
Onderzeeboot
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"I'm not saying it is, mind you, because then some other company might sue us, but it might be!"
It's definitely one of the best games though.
CML
Contributor
"An old acquaintance was there to support her boyfriend, a lugubrious and hairy argument against the “pro Magic” lifestyle. I sat down across from her and said hello; “I’ll talk to you later,” she replied, walking away in no particular direction …"
I mean, mtg is a really really good game, but is it the best? Like that is such an insanely high reaching claim. The best card game or the best gaame? Also not for nothing but the mtg scene could do with more cute players regardless.
I don't understand what you're trying to say CML, but on the face of it, it sounds like you're stooping extra low for this one.
Nonetheless, quite looking forward to your Shroom Tour Seattle/Portland/Etc report!
Nonetheless, quite looking forward to your Shroom Tour Seattle/Portland/Etc report!
CML, if you don't mind I'd love your opinion on strategical depth in Magic and in poker - it seems pretty germane to the question of 'best game'!
Personally, I've gone back and forth on whether Magic is the best nonphysical social game I've played but I've played an awful lot of indie storygames and RPGs and card and memory games and Magic still stands above them to me, as far as depth, replayability and self-expression through gaming go (a bold statement tbh but one i believe).
Personally, I've gone back and forth on whether Magic is the best nonphysical social game I've played but I've played an awful lot of indie storygames and RPGs and card and memory games and Magic still stands above them to me, as far as depth, replayability and self-expression through gaming go (a bold statement tbh but one i believe).
I could replay Battlecon: Devastation of Indines quite a few more times before gettin bored. The all-bluffing, zero-randomness makes it a lot more stressful though, so it's more of a "sometimes food". I wanna try the co-op scenarios, but people only ever wanna play the standard 1v1.
I don't understand what you're trying to say CML, but on the face of it, it sounds like you're stooping extra low for this one.
Nonetheless, quite looking forward to your Shroom Tour Seattle/Portland/Etc report!
Yeah, I don't get it either.
FlowerSunRain
Contributor
Magic has way too much baggage attached to it for me to consider it being "the best game", but I can understand an argument that the baggage itself is part of what makes the game great.
"An old acquaintance was there to support her boyfriend, a lugubrious and hairy argument against the “pro Magic” lifestyle. I sat down across from her and said hello; “I’ll talk to you later,” she replied, walking away in no particular direction …"
If that's a pic of her bf, she clearly has self esteem issues cuz nothing about him reads as superior to the undeniable pussy magnet that is CML.
EDIT:
WWE superstar Triple H = The Game
MtG = great game
Hunting men = the most dangerous game
Chess = best game
Chess is probably the best game, you're right. But my friends who play have higher ELOs than i do and my friends who don't lack chess theory. I guess i'm just miffed that at the high levels chess is about study and precedent whereas magic has less study and more reading your opponent.
it's also possible that if i knuckled down and spent six months getting better i wouldn't agree with that critique of high level chess play but surely chess is much less social of a game than Magic.
it's also possible that if i knuckled down and spent six months getting better i wouldn't agree with that critique of high level chess play but surely chess is much less social of a game than Magic.
Grillo_Parlante
Contributor
If they want magic to be the best game of all time they would have to decommercialize it. As is, their is no focus on really perfecting the gaming experience.
Onderzeeboot
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Isn't Go better than Chess?
i don't have the patience to seriously learn go and probably won't for decades so no
There sure are some pretty cool historical Go stories though!
Onderzeeboot
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That doesn't mean at all that chess is the better game though. Go is both less repetitive and it has a simpler rules set from which yet a multitude of different strategies emerge. It's such an elegant game really. Also, computers can't seem to figure out go. Where Deep Blue beat Gary Kasparov ages ago, computer programs are still at amateur level in Go... on the smaller boards.
Wikipedia said: