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You're a monster.

I'm sure I saw this argument like 2 days ago, but citadel of pain just does a slightly different thing now, as you can just tap out, but that still means you can't cast instants.

I can see the arguments both ways for damage on the stack, but wtf mana burn

Right. See also jackal pup savannah lion

Yeah I have a FTS goyf and I'm a) glad I procrastinate too much to have sold it a year ago, and b) unsure when to get off this crazy train.

I feel like control isn't going 'I'll stop you doing your thing and figure out what to do later', and is going more 'I'm going to out-value your thing by screwing it up'?

Unless I'm misinterpreting what Jason's saying.

A bunch of walls, some bounce, some permission, and something to end the game with eventually. I feel the poster child cards for the strategy are Ludevic's test subject and rite of replication. Spider spawning does it a bit as well, but you need to self mill a bunch. Stocking up on defensive...

I run the guy who gives all guys with flanking extra flanking. RW can do flanks-mans and just trade up all day; WU can clone the flanking lord and go to town. I guess flanking and +1/+1 counters works well? So RG and WG can pick that up I guess, although you'd be better going...

Weren't they talking during Innistrad about how each colour pair got a 'slow' strategy and a 'fast' strategy, for some given value of slow and fast? That feels like a better way of determining where your curves need to be for each colour than having them all line up perfectly.

Without meaning to provoke or go off on another rant, this is EDH, right? Someone had a neat idea for how to play magic, but then it got corporatised and now it's a homogeneous, bloated mess rather than getting slimmed down and improved. I guess the same could be true of cubing, given the modo...

I want to actually get the cards and playgroup together to actually draft; mostly my cube is intellectual game design exercise. I feel like my bounce is too prevalent for the environment. Some colour pairs are way shallower than others in mechanical themes, although they might be better...

The site isn't working. Well, now it is, but I was getting 403 forbidden. On reflection, this is probably now fixed?

To my way of thinking, if this is your opinion, you don't need to break singleton. Just play more interesting value/synergy cards. All the stuff that 'needs' to break singleton will tend to be for build-around-me reasons; see our collective love multiples of gravecrawler (zombie agro) and pod...

I see you've discovered the fundamental problem with EDH.

Well isolation still allows 'when this attacks' triggers, and also allows blocking shadow creatures which was actually meaningful in the environment. I could see isolationing your own dude in some circumstances.

And there's pod, splinter twin and living end. Magic's been going towards attacking with creatures for a while, right? Where are the attacking decks? Even robots seems to be more of a combo deck that dumps all its +1/+1 counters on a single dude who makes it through than a deck that tries to...

The ad nauseum deck gets props for taking mad mana requirements to their utterly illogical extreme, and for winning via ridiculousness.

actually, {u/p}{u/b} seems like a spicy casting cost for... something. Like, blue pays UU, and blacks like fuck you mana, B and two life bitches. I appear to be using the word fuck excessively recently, I should destress.

Related to a post elsewhere: Blue moon was the best deck at the PT, because fuck modern mana bases. Ascension storm with blood moon sideboard was second best, and that 8 rack mono B discard deck was third best because that was fucking ballsy and I love it.