Man am I liking the fact that they're including a lot of sweet lands in the return to zendikar set
Sets Battle for Zendikar Spoilers
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Onderzeeboot
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Emeria Shepherd 5WW
Creature - Angel (Rare)
Flying
Landfall - Whenever a land enters the battlefield under your control, you may return target nonland permanent card from your graveyard to your hand. If that land is a Plains, you may return that nonland permanent to the battlefield instead.
4/4
Oh. Oh wow! Seven mana is expensive, but that is one heck of a triggered ability!
Creature - Angel (Rare)
Flying
Landfall - Whenever a land enters the battlefield under your control, you may return target nonland permanent card from your graveyard to your hand. If that land is a Plains, you may return that nonland permanent to the battlefield instead.
4/4
Oh. Oh wow! Seven mana is expensive, but that is one heck of a triggered ability!
Onderzeeboot
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I want to play this modern and wreck unsuspecting people
Onderzeeboot
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Ah, right. They think of everything!Sower is a cast trigger though, so it doesn't actually work with T&N
Dumb question: can you use cards exiled by Ashiok or Oblivion Ring for this?
Yeah, I suppose so. Ownership is set at the start of the game so eilig with oring should work
So you could remove the card exiled by Oblivion Ring, then bounce it and exile something else?
What cards do we have that actually work with Wasteland Strangler? I'm trying to figure out if it's cubeable. Off the top of my head:
Can you exile something that's suspended? Something that's in rebound?
Or is this just too narrow of a hoop to jump through?
What cards do we have that actually work with Wasteland Strangler? I'm trying to figure out if it's cubeable. Off the top of my head:
Can you exile something that's suspended? Something that's in rebound?
Or is this just too narrow of a hoop to jump through?
Laz
Developer
Yes and yes.
If you were looking for some way to hate out those damn Riftwing Cloudskates or Epochrasites, look no further.
Cool little synergies exist with Flickerwisp and Mesmeric Fiend type cards, it hates on Aetherling and Obzedat. I have no idea how it interacts with Imprint...
Is this the final kick we need to start playing the Galepowder Mage that CML keeps yelling at us about? Otherworldly Journey is also a kind of neat card.
Flickerwisp itself would be difficult, as you need 6 mana and you're probably not holding both cards in hand that late. I like that it places deckbuilding constraints, but I would want probably 5 or so ways to activate it before I would consider putting it in my deck.
That probably involves altering the composition of my cube somehow. Double Deathrite is a start, I haven't been impressed by Mesmeric Fiend. I guess if this block pumps out some good Ingesters then it might become more reasonable.
Oh right, and Delve. But obviously anything that requires an opponent to be doing something is harder to trigger reliably.
Relic of Progenitus, what else do we have? Cremate as a bad cantrip?
That probably involves altering the composition of my cube somehow. Double Deathrite is a start, I haven't been impressed by Mesmeric Fiend. I guess if this block pumps out some good Ingesters then it might become more reasonable.
Oh right, and Delve. But obviously anything that requires an opponent to be doing something is harder to trigger reliably.
Relic of Progenitus, what else do we have? Cremate as a bad cantrip?
It's cool but doesn't it have the same restriction as this card?
Fair point, but spell effects are more interesting than a french vanilla, slightly-undercosted guy.
Absolutely, but a vanilla 3/2 is also pretty unexciting!
Chris Taylor
Contributor
With imprint typically it wrecks the card. Chrome Mox doesn't tap for mana anymore, soul foundry can't make any more dudes, duplicant becomes a 2/4, etc
Though mimic vat kinda just chills out.
FlowerSunRain
Contributor
I wasn't feeling this set.
Until today.
A lot of cool tools in the bulk upload. I like more life trigger options, but they seem a little low power.
Until today.
A lot of cool tools in the bulk upload. I like more life trigger options, but they seem a little low power.
Stuff I'm cubing that can turn on your Eldrazi Processors without requiring much from your opponent includes:
Things your opponent can do to turn on your Processors include:
That, uh, seems like a lot, to me anyway.
Things your opponent can do to turn on your Processors include:
That, uh, seems like a lot, to me anyway.
Some select hits from the full spoiler:
It's no Whirler Rogue, but the combination of bodies and stats are still solid!
Many of us are desperate for two-drops, and this seems better than Butcher Ghoul.
I actually ran Volcanic Offering for a while, and found it too good / unfun. At six mana, this might be the right cost for the effect...?
A worse Blood Artist... cause we're all about functional reprints at Riptide Lab!
This seems goddamn fantastic. Two good black non-basics in the same set?! I must've made some kind of Demonic Pact.
Probably just worse than Myriad Landscape, but I guess it's an option, at least.
It's no Whirler Rogue, but the combination of bodies and stats are still solid!
Many of us are desperate for two-drops, and this seems better than Butcher Ghoul.
I actually ran Volcanic Offering for a while, and found it too good / unfun. At six mana, this might be the right cost for the effect...?
A worse Blood Artist... cause we're all about functional reprints at Riptide Lab!
This seems goddamn fantastic. Two good black non-basics in the same set?! I must've made some kind of Demonic Pact.
Probably just worse than Myriad Landscape, but I guess it's an option, at least.
Chris Taylor
Contributor
Any opinions on half a blood artist? It's worse, but most of us have been cautious about adding a second.
Might this be a good middle ground?
I like Zulaport Guy because he can attack and is a Human. I'll probably try him. His drawback is mitigated in the deck that likely wants him most (Bx sac).
FlowerSunRain
Contributor
Zulaport is cool, he doesn't cause the same level of combat hell as his vampire brother, but I being able to kill something in combat once in a while is relevant. Its a good middle ground if you want a slightly less powerful version of the effect (or play lots of 1 toughness dudes I guess).
I'm thinking of slapping on flying and lifelink and having it be a less team friendly Archangel of Thune.
Alternately, or in addition:
Change the buff into a counter and enjoy flying pridemate action?
Related: How would a 1/1 for or with Pridemate next be?
I'm thinking of slapping on flying and lifelink and having it be a less team friendly Archangel of Thune.
Alternately, or in addition:
Change the buff into a counter and enjoy flying pridemate action?
Related: How would a 1/1 for
or with Pridemate next be?
Yeah, on second thought, I think I will give Zulaport Cutthroat a fair shake, and swap out Falkenrath Noble. The flying vampire is great, no question, but four-drop slots are increasingly contested, and I wanted to make room for Smothering Abomination, anyways.
This full spoiler seems really good at first glance. I feel like there's a lot that Riptide cubes could use from this set to bolster themes or add new ones. Gotta chew on it a bit to see how it'll affect my list.