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CML
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Onderzeeboot
Ecstatic Orb
I remember this being pretty stellar in Kamigawa limited. Is this cubable if you run a small enchantment theme?
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I remember this being pretty stellar in Kamigawa limited. Is this cubable if you run a small enchantment theme?
Dom Harvey
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I really just want to go:
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FlowerSunRain
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It seems too mana intensive, but mana bloom kinda sucks anyway so maybe I'll try it.
In my cube you actually can. I'll see if I can force draft an Esper replenish-style deck this weekend.I really just want to go:
Laz
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This is how I like to design at the moment. Cut either the obnoxious artifacts or enchantments. I mean, cutting both would make the challenge of adding non-creature permanent destruction much simpler, but just one allows you to focus one way or another, although ensuring enough targets to make narrow hate valuable is still difficult. I looked at the Mirrodin and Scars blocks, and they are one-third artifacts. I don't think that density of artifacts is a good idea for non-'artifact themed' cubes, so there is no point running answers which are too narrow. I am of the belief that there has to be a reasonable number of generally playable cards which target your particular brand of non-creature permanent in existence, though I don't know at what density they should appear in your Cube. I don't want Smash to Smithereens to be a miserable necessity.
Onderzeeboot
Ecstatic Orb
I think it might be the best RR drop ever. Aggro decks don't care about the damage to themselves, but every bit of damage to your opponent counts. This being a beater makes all the difference!
Uh, they're not super related but I think something like Gattock Teeg has a much bigger board impact.
I also prefer the other RR drops I think. Like the RTR Hasty First-Striker, or, um, Kargan Dragonlord? But to be honest I've never played with this dude. I don't think I currently run any CC beaters aside from Bloodghast and Strangleroot Geist.
I also prefer the other RR drops I think. Like the RTR Hasty First-Striker, or, um, Kargan Dragonlord? But to be honest I've never played with this dude. I don't think I currently run any CC beaters aside from Bloodghast and Strangleroot Geist.
I love Kargan Dragonlord. I can't picture ever taking that out of my cube.
Onderzeeboot
Ecstatic Orb
Referring to Pyrostatic Pillar here, by the way, which is pretty much unplayable unless you support storm for up to 6 drafters. I think the Eidolon is probably better dan Ash Zealot, and much better than Kargan Dragonlord (though that card is awesome in a "build your own dragon" way).
Chris Taylor
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Pyrostatic Pillar mans is better than he look FWIW. He'll get better the lower everyone's curve is of course, but even in mine he usually was RR for a 4/2 who did about 6 to me on average. Think Carnophage with reach. Also giving him lifelink is a fun little puzzle for drafters, even if it usually isn't that necessary
Kargan Dragonlord was always WAY too slow for me, but I've been on an echo hating binge for a while now. I also cut student of warfare and he preformed pretty well.
Kargan Dragonlord was always WAY too slow for me, but I've been on an echo hating binge for a while now. I also cut student of warfare and he preformed pretty well.
Those level-up guys really encourage you to go near-monocolour, and punish you pretty badly for splashing. It's been a while since I've seen an 8/8 Dragonlord, but it was way more common back when my cube was bad and mono-red was top tier. Nowadays, 4/4 is about as large as he gets, and even that's uncommon.
I think where these guys are good is when you are facing a control deck and you want to force their hand. Control wants you playing more dudes so they can 2 for 1 you. But the level up dudes force them to go 1 for 1 and that is why they are good IMO. Student in particular is just annoying like that. You can just drop this guy and keep sinking mana into it and the control guy HAS to get rid of it or he loses. As the control guy, having a wrath in hand but facing down a 3/3 first striker that can only get bigger is problematic if you didn't draw any targeted removal (or you burned it already on his Mother, etc.).
My cube is slower than most around here, but mana sink cards are strong I think because they give you ways to build board presence without over extending. Very valuable in a lot of match-ups IMO. Maybe I just hate walking into a 2 for 1 or 3 for 1 situation which is all too common when you play hard aggro and just toss your entire hand on the table in 3 turns.
Chris Taylor
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Yeah my red/white decks do that naturally with double strike guys and equipment, so perhaps that explains a bit when they don't need the help!
(Keeping removal sorcery speed is a nice way to make it easier to get at least one attack out of a creature)Most of the really good 241 spells are dividable burn rather than wrath effects over here. Arc Trail is basically my favorite red card because aggro and control love it, but sometimes 2 just isn't enough.
CML
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teeg eh? never gotten anyone to be interested in him in my Cube.
describe what teeg does over on your side of the pond
p.s. i am an ash zealot man and would not consider running eidolon in standard burn but in cube he is great fun. if you have supported aggro cards like that and Sulfuric Vortex end up being great double-edged fun
FlowerSunRain
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That reeks of good design.
Dom Harvey
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I've been taking another look at Arc Trail (/Flames of the Firebrand) as 'kill your guy, trigger heroic'
Chris Taylor
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Dom Harvey
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I remember this being pretty stellar in Kamigawa limited. Is this cubable if you run a small enchantment theme?