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Jason Waddell

Jason Waddell

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4 Arid Mesa
3 Misty Rainforest
2 Scalding Tarn
2 Marsh Flats
2 Verdant Catacombs
1 Hallowed Fountain
1 Temple Garden
1 Stomping Ground
1 Steam Vents
1 Blood Crypt
1 Godless Shrine
1 Breeding Pool
1 Plains
1 Mountain
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4 Deathrite Shaman
1 Noble Hierarch
2 Snapcaster Mage
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4 Geist of Saint Traft
4 Lightning Bolt
4 Lightning Helix
4 Tribal Flames
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2 Path to Exile
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2 Path to Exile
2 Remand
2 Molten Rain
2 Wear // Tear
1 Ancient Grudge
1 Sowing Salt
3 Aven Mindcensor

2 Nihil Spellbomb
 
Dom Harvey

Dom Harvey

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I wrote a long article on Pod ages ago (can publish it here maybe?), dug it up recently and tried updating some of the lists there. Have a look at:

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Goldenpineapple

Goldenpineapple

I watched a couple of the videos what feels like a long time ago (at least a couple weeks) and he wins on the back of cryptic most of the time... hardly pauper but I guess even mythicless is a sort of achievement these days?

Just last week one of my LGS's store owners sold a set of sharpie-edited ninjas to a customer for a near-hundo; they were dressed up as captain america, superman, spiderman and batman. Looked pretty sweet, I'll see if I can find a pic to share.
 
CML

CML

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from my jaundiced corner of the metagame i have a hard time imagining myself losing to that deck, but i take a step back and realize that, unlike zac hill's grixis abortion (or lavaclaw-reaches-burn miscarriage), it might actually be good. check this out though

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the celibate have no sense of irony
 
Jason Waddell

Jason Waddell

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Ryan said:
There I fixed that for you.
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Hmm... some of you are hating on Travis lately, but I gotta say, I have played a ton of Pauper Delver and would have never made the connection to porting it to Modern. I've been watching the LSV videos, and the Disrupting Shoal inclusion is genuinely inspired. I had forgotten about the card, and in this deck it often plays as a more easily hard-castable, lifeloss-less Force of Will. The sideboard plans are great too, and it's great to see them come together in the matchups.

Even if it's not his original concept, Travis is out there inspiring people to play new and inventive decks, and I think his writing has a really great positive tone to it.
 
Dom Harvey

Dom Harvey

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Shitty mono-blue has been a fixture of the Tournament Practice room since time immemorial.

His writing isn't positive, it's Tony Robbins-esque drivel. I'm not taking life advice from someone who refuses to shower.
 
Jason Waddell

Jason Waddell

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I never read any of the MTG life advice articles, but I was thinking along the lines of the "take ownership for your own success", "always shake your opponent's hand", sort of stuff. Positive in the sense that he shows real excitement for the decks he plays and I think that's pretty contagious. I like that there's a sense of fun to what he does, especially when so much of the competitive scene and "PTQ grinder" culture are very negative.

I'm not going to say he's perfect, but I don't think his popularity is unwarranted.
 
Ryan

Ryan

I don't dislike Travis by any means. I just dislike claiming originality for something that already existed. It's just a pet peeve. One time Roberto Gonzalez wrote an article on SCG about this U/W deck "that he had been tinkering with and working on" and presented a card for card copy of a list my buddy had been crushing dailies with. To quote the ever eloquent Peter Griffin that grinds my gears.
 
James Stevenson

James Stevenson

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I posted the "getting angry at Travis after too much coffee" post a while back and that seems to have kicked off some complaining. I'd just like to clarify that I LOVE the decks he builds/plays but he makes a lot of mistakes and it's frustrating to watch. He admits it himself. I thought the ninja-bear-delver thing was nuts, but after watching LSV play it properly I am convinced. It's the tempo deck we've been looking for in cube and haven't gotten to work! Maybe it's time to add ninja of the deep hours.
 
Goldenpineapple

Goldenpineapple

James Stevenson said:
It's the tempo deck we've been looking for in cube and haven't gotten to work!
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I didn't know this was a thing... UG tempo is actually a fairly popular archetype among my players, and I'll admit that the other local player, whose decisions cube-wise I'm almost always at odds with, added a few cards I dismissed instantly but after watching him play it and playing against it I have to say it's real enough. But should this go in another thread?
 
James Stevenson

James Stevenson

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Well I think we had a big "how do we make blue attacking decks" discussion, probably mixed in the with the Delver thread. UW tempo used to be the best deck in my cube, hands down, but I haven't seen it in a while and I'm wondering why.
 
CML

CML

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travis is a sweet dude who is slowly being driven insane, like everyone else, by trying to use this game as a means to make a living. his decks are often excellent, his play in competitive events is also excellent, and his positivity is, at the moment, lacking in humor and therefore as hollow and fragile as the hucksters on the mothership
 
anotak

anotak

i dont like when he clearly makes a horrific misplay and im looking at the screen saying "is he really going to make this horrible misplay". then he gets punished. he just says something like "did we misplay? i dont know. its unclear. magic is hard"

what
first of all what's with the 'we', second of all, just admit you made a mistake and own up to it. it'll let you learn, and it'll let your viewers learn. sure, "magic is hard", but it isn't incomprehensible or impossible to learn from.

the time that he failed to go infinite with palinchron and mana doublers in a mtgo cube draft still sticks out in my brain

if i'm watching a video of a rogue deck builder i'd much rather watch conley woods or something because he's willing to more publicly admit mistakes and reexamine what he's working. despite conley's annoying humming.

or speaking of lsv playing the blue deck: i haven't watched twoo's vids about it, but i watched lsv's. in one match he barely wins off the back of drawing all 4 cryptic commands and tapping down his opponent's army (and snapcastering it a 5th time iirc?). he says "well, that seems really good, but maybe it was more just that cryptic is really good and i drew all 4". i feel like travis woo would've just had that happen and go "YEAH THIS DECK IS NUTS GUYS"

edit: if there's one thing i like much less than people picking awful decks/characters/whatever: it is people portraying picking those as absolutely great ideas. i encounter so much of this garbage, and it is self-perpetuating. people in a circle hear thing X is good from whoever, so they repeat it and eventually nobody knows why anyone said it but thing X is good because everybody KNOWS it. this shit happens in everything. it leads to bad play, bad choices, and it leads to unneeded nerfs or bannings by game designers / tournament organizers. i hate people spreading the misinformation and convincing people to play bad decks and then they play against real shit and have a bad experience and dont get what happened. especially in magic where a bad deck is a significant money investment so people are extra EXTRA attached to their shit choices. its dishonest. stop perpetuating badness
 
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