I hope Wilds of Eldraine is a great draft set but over the last months I have found retail draft to be a real rollercoaster. Kamigawa: Neon Dynasty, Dominaria United a March of the Machine have been some of my favourite draft formats of all time. Lord of the Rings has also been very good. But Streets of New Capenna, The Brothers War and Phyrexia: All will be One were all pretty bad from my perspective. It has at least clarified that I prefer a slower format with multiple viable options, and can design my cube accordingly!
Sets (WOE) Wilds of Eldraine Spoilers
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Oops, looks like someone got a hold of a few Promo packs before spoiler season and now we have some cards to look at:
So, I guess this set should have been called “Glue Cards of Eldraine,” because between the Bargain and Celebration mechanics, “card type matters” themes are going to be easier than ever to weave together!
There will also be Aura tokens in the set. I’m not sure how I feel about those yet, they seem like a lot of memory baggage because of how wordy auras tend to be. It looks like there will be a couple aura tokens used on many cards. Maybe this will be enough for a theme?
Card-wise, I think the new Adventures look phenomenal. On first read, I’m lowest on Heartfire Duelist and highest on Horned Loch-Whale. Mosswood Dreadknight looks fantastic as well. I wish Scalding Viper’s adventure was an instant, that may kill the card for me. However, I like that it’s a one-sided eidolon of the great revel. I’m ambivalent towards the legendary giant right now. I like that it has Savage Knuckleblade stats but I would need to see how it plays before making a decision.
Overall, this set looks fantastic so far and any fears I had about them overcorrecting thanks to the issues with the previous Eldraine set have been quashed. I can’t wait to see the rest of the cards!!
So, I guess this set should have been called “Glue Cards of Eldraine,” because between the Bargain and Celebration mechanics, “card type matters” themes are going to be easier than ever to weave together!
There will also be Aura tokens in the set. I’m not sure how I feel about those yet, they seem like a lot of memory baggage because of how wordy auras tend to be. It looks like there will be a couple aura tokens used on many cards. Maybe this will be enough for a theme?
Card-wise, I think the new Adventures look phenomenal. On first read, I’m lowest on Heartfire Duelist and highest on Horned Loch-Whale. Mosswood Dreadknight looks fantastic as well. I wish Scalding Viper’s adventure was an instant, that may kill the card for me. However, I like that it’s a one-sided eidolon of the great revel. I’m ambivalent towards the legendary giant right now. I like that it has Savage Knuckleblade stats but I would need to see how it plays before making a decision.
Overall, this set looks fantastic so far and any fears I had about them overcorrecting thanks to the issues with the previous Eldraine set have been quashed. I can’t wait to see the rest of the cards!!
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Heartflame Duelist is definitely interesting, but I think it's more of a constructed plant as it truly gets nuts in multiples. Nothing wrong with a 3/1 that can be a removal spell when needed, though. Between that and Imodane it seems like there's a burn theme to RW, which is novel!
Another card I'm interested in is in the top right of picture 4. It's a 2/2 white creature (human peasant) woth vigilance and the ability "at the beginning of combat on your turn, you may pay 1. When you do, create a Sorcerer Role token attached to target creature you control (UT gets +1/+1 and scries 1 when it attacks but can only have one role)."
Depending on the mana cost it could be an interesting sidegrade of Luminarch Aspirant.
Sentinel of Lost Lore is on first brush a fun way to beef up an Adventure theme, but the fact that it will ALWAYS exile the opponents graveyard (!!! "One or more" is one hell of a text line) can be really oppressive. Maybe it's aggressively-statted enough that people are more likely to run it out on 3 and won't be able to take full advantage of that ability?
Overall, this seems promising even if it's not at all the direction I thought a return to Eldraine would have taken!
Another card I'm interested in is in the top right of picture 4. It's a 2/2 white creature (human peasant) woth vigilance and the ability "at the beginning of combat on your turn, you may pay 1. When you do, create a Sorcerer Role token attached to target creature you control (UT gets +1/+1 and scries 1 when it attacks but can only have one role)."
Depending on the mana cost it could be an interesting sidegrade of Luminarch Aspirant.
Sentinel of Lost Lore is on first brush a fun way to beef up an Adventure theme, but the fact that it will ALWAYS exile the opponents graveyard (!!! "One or more" is one hell of a text line) can be really oppressive. Maybe it's aggressively-statted enough that people are more likely to run it out on 3 and won't be able to take full advantage of that ability?
Overall, this seems promising even if it's not at all the direction I thought a return to Eldraine would have taken!
I've got my fingers crossed for some of these multicolor Adventures below Rare.
On the other hand, this could be the set that pushes my Peasant cube into the world of Moneyed Citizen Cube.
EDIT: Also, "Bargain" absolutely rules, I love stuff like this. I was a big fan of Casualty.
On the other hand, this could be the set that pushes my Peasant cube into the world of Moneyed Citizen Cube.
EDIT: Also, "Bargain" absolutely rules, I love stuff like this. I was a big fan of Casualty.
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Missed one!
Faerie Dreamthief looks like a better Unwilling Ingredient, which itself is a card I've been begrudgingly running. Food Fight is . . . definitely a build-around. Restless Bivouac might be enough better than Raging Ravine due to the earlier start, but I doubt it. My read on the new cycle of manlands is that they're (so far) all no better than the previous cycle, which is a little disappointing given how uneven that one was.
Faerie Dreamthief looks like a better Unwilling Ingredient, which itself is a card I've been begrudgingly running. Food Fight is . . . definitely a build-around. Restless Bivouac might be enough better than Raging Ravine due to the earlier start, but I doubt it. My read on the new cycle of manlands is that they're (so far) all no better than the previous cycle, which is a little disappointing given how uneven that one was.
Thunderous Debut might as well just say "as an additional cost", feels like a design with a lot of unnecessary text.
Happy to see double-spelling coming back, I'll be playing the Raging Battle Mouse.
I want to like Horned Loch-Whale, but it's a bit too much of just a good control win-con for my taste.
I might try Three Blind Mice, but I think I like History of Benalia more.
Happy to see double-spelling coming back, I'll be playing the Raging Battle Mouse.
I want to like Horned Loch-Whale, but it's a bit too much of just a good control win-con for my taste.
I might try Three Blind Mice, but I think I like History of Benalia more.
the BG recursive adventure guy, horned loch whale, and the battle mouse all seem v good
Already a half dozen cards I'm almost sure to include, lovely set so far. Mosswood Dreadknight is a dream of a card that I can't wait to play, and the "roles" may be the first "overly-complex-mechanic-made-with-Arena-in-mind" in a while that I may be introducing to my cube depending on how many we can get that I like.
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Look at that Beluna Grandsquall! Could adventures be the Temur archetype I'm looking for?
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Another batch!
Rat Rabblemaster is nice.
Questing Druid is another Quirion Dryad for Miracle-Gro//Invasion Block Nostalgia gamers (boy, has it been a good year for Invasion Block Nostalgia gamers).
Beseech the Mirror is another copy of Siege Rhino for the 34 Rhinos deck.
I think the point of Bargain is to shorten the text for all of the cards using this additional cost and to make the theme more flavorful, since it’s a main mechanic of the set. Especially because they can make cards that care about when you Bargain now.
Looks like we are getting a bunch of fun aristocrats tools in this set! I love Tangled Colony and the looping BG Adventure guy. Always looking for fun recursive cards and dies triggers beyond the usual suspects of Bloodsoaked Champion and friends.
Can't say I'm particularly excited about Roles but I'm a hater for this type of mechanic. There being multiple different versions of an already somewhat complicated mechanic, some of which are upside and some of which are downside, plus the fact that it appears with no reminder text on the rares means this one will probably be a pass for me. Happy for folks who are pushing enchantments though, always fun to get some new tools for an under-supported archetype.
Can't say I'm particularly excited about Roles but I'm a hater for this type of mechanic. There being multiple different versions of an already somewhat complicated mechanic, some of which are upside and some of which are downside, plus the fact that it appears with no reminder text on the rares means this one will probably be a pass for me. Happy for folks who are pushing enchantments though, always fun to get some new tools for an under-supported archetype.
Not feeling particularly excited about any of the cards, _but_ I think this might just be due to the nature of how things got spoiled. I'm fairly sure that Wizards are deliberate in the order they reveal the cards from the set. Feeling good about more fairy tale stuff with Bargain, though.
Yes, sure. My point is that if they are going to make a modal card, one side of it probably shouldn't be an 8-mana sorcery-speed Shared Summons with a downside. There's a myriad of other ways to approach the cards to make it less lopsided, like look at fewer cards, only put one creature into play, or heck, make it always put creatures into play, but put some counters on them if you did bargain it. I doubt the card is on the cusp of being a power outlier.
Oh gotcha. I thought you were talking about the mechanic and not the card itself.
I’d be willing to bet money that this is the work of Casual Play Design. Ruining cards is their favorite pastime!
Spellbook Vendor costs 1W— it’s actually a good card!!
I'm not totally liking the general vibe/flavour of the set, it doesn't feel so Eldraine-y to me. Satyrs?!
Anyway, mechanically there are a couple cards I really love. Some of the adventure creatures, the manlands, the aura tokens seem interesting, the almost-better generous gift, etc
EDIT: also the 3/3 for U seems fire
Anyway, mechanically there are a couple cards I really love. Some of the adventure creatures, the manlands, the aura tokens seem interesting, the almost-better generous gift, etc
EDIT: also the 3/3 for U seems fire
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3/3 flyer for 1 mana in blue poggers
colony, dragon, dryad seem OK
colony, dragon, dryad seem OK
The End should have been "End the turn. You lose 5 life" and cost 1BB
It has “This spell cost
less to cast if your life total is 5 or less.” That seems rather weird if the spell costs .