Card/Deck +1/+1 Counters
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FlowerSunRain
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Do we have a new friend here?
Pros: Dirt cheap, hard to remove type, snowballs advantages.
Cons: If you aren't hitting multiple triggers, its a conditional anthem.
I think its awesome. Stupidly fast, actually, if you run ordeals.
It certainly helps anchor people into the archetype. Actually, I think this could be one of those cards that makes a Timmy go "I want as many counters as I can get)
FlowerSunRain
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It can certainly lead to some insane openings. Not sure if those are actually healthy for the game, but as far as "combo" decks go, its pretty fair.
The way the +1/+1 counter deck works in my cube, I would rather just play another creature.
Onderzeeboot
Ecstatic Orb
I love build around me cards like this that have a broad enough application that they can actually work in limited.
FlowerSunRain
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Unspeakable Symbol still isn't worth playing, but its almost looking tempting.
So it looks like we're getting some more Matters- and Lord cards. I like how they sort of enable themselves.
Chris Taylor
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Huh I thought that was a 2/3 from the spoiler 
It's much better now that it's base restoration angel stats.
I kinda like the 2/3 with outlast and gives creatures with +1/+1 counters on them flying. Could be cool
It's much better now that it's base restoration angel stats.I kinda like the
2/3 with outlast and gives creatures with +1/+1 counters on them flying. Could be coolAs long as the creatures themselves are playable outside of the theme and things incidentally play into the theme it can probably be great. I'm thinking in the same vein as the GW lifegain (finks, courser, archangel etc)
FlowerSunRain
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I kinda like the
That guy is crazy is my cube. The Deathtouch, Lifelink and Trample dudes in that theme were kinda weak, but flying is the real deal.
I think the green trample one is pretty good as well actually, great with hydras and monstrous.
Chris Taylor
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Probably, but Nylea is probably better for that purpose
FlowerSunRain
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I don't know when it happened, but there are a lot of cards that give trample right now. I was considering of about adding archetype of aggression at one point and I remember thinking "didn't I just add a card that does the exact same thing?"
Indeed, I had
<3 Nylea
I don't think this effect is interesting enough that it needs to be synergy dependent.
Indeed, I had
<3 Nylea
I don't think this effect is interesting enough that it needs to be synergy dependent.
Chris Taylor
Contributor
It can be though. back when my green proliferate placeholder spell was +2/+2 and deathtouch, and it got played more on guys with first strike or trample than any other (Even spikeshot elder )
+2/+2 and deathtouch, and it got played more on guys with first strike or trample than any other (Even spikeshot elder )
Onderzeeboot
Ecstatic Orb
Thrummingbird needs a lower power level and some explicit theme support, but Volt Charge and Tezz's Gambit both work at a high power level.
I think I've been convinced that counter theme doesn't have to suck! Especially if it's like 1 drop, planeswalker and persist/undying based, it could possibly be an easy slide. But I also tend to be supes dubious about onboard themes that interact with a new resource and don't help with card selection.