Sets (MID) Innistrad: Midnight Hunt
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yeah and having it be LTB is way way better than dying, especially here. this may unlock some Big Mana Shenanigans in my cube that previously were kinda hard to justify over curving out at 3. i’m excited. actual factual LFTL was the most painful cut i’ve ever made
This might be a bit too good for my tastes. I like that she self-regulates protecting her by making counters useless... but I also don't like how she makes counters entirely useless. In my slower format I just fear that untapping with her is a recipe for really fast snowballing of advantage. She doesn't even limit spells cast to one per turn! Or limit it to your turn! Like compare to
I think the high upfront cost combined with scaling to available spells will make this work in a lot of cubes!
who is a really powerful spellslinger, and requires three colors and still offers all those limitations.
I seem to remember people finding backdraft hellkite to be too much, and I think this will be in the same ballpark, trading the body of Hellkite for unlimited flashbacks all the time.
i dunno. i think i’d rather have Kess most of the time. better body (Kess flies), costs less, doesn’t turn off my own counters. 5 mana is a LOT for a creature that i have to spend even more mana on top of that to get value from, especially if i can’t use all the blue counterspells in my yard/hand to protect my blue control finisher
Partially my point, but in my format the 5 mana isn't a big barrier (and the 3 colors for Kess is more of a barrier for me than you). Kess is a steady stream of value over the remainder of the game, hard to remove (counter protection), extra spell cast per turn, flying etc. Lier can just be a nuclear bomb. Untap and empty the yard at the opponent, and then maybe untap and do it again. More in a UR spells-tempo deck that isn't so interested in countermagic. Slightly different operating principles, and I think Kess is the more fun and workable version.
Paging all lifegain themes. This seems like a potentially powerful centerpiece of such a theme. Repeatable trigger and (card draw!) payoff in one package.
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I guess there's no avoiding the Night and Day token in my cube...I would really prefer even just the front side of this to Wharf Infiltrator. Maybe I'll print a custom inner sleeve that covers up just the "Daybound" and "2/1" with an opaque rectangle in the same the same shade of blue or something, but I do love the backside here too!
I know I'm going to cube this card no matter what, I just want to try to slow the floodgates on other Day/Night cards because my defenses will be down after I've included the first. I don't want my cube to have such a high density of DFCs in general, but now we'll be having both kinds of werewolves in our 720 list and that's irritating if nothing else. Ah well, it's less confusing than Mutate still.
i would run just the backside of Stowaway with no day/night text tbh
The backside doesn't have a mana cost, so you'd have to do a bit more than basic sharpie-ing. I can easily see striking the daybound line from the front though.
Pretty nice centerpiece for a +1/+1 counter theme mixed with some human tribal. Also a GW mana dork just by herself. Only downside I see is the random werewolf tribal protection might annoy some.
Katilda, Dawnhart Headwitch
Legendary Creature - Human Warlock
Protection from Werewolves
Human creatures you control have "T: Add one mana of any of this creature's colors."
4GW, T: Put a +1/+1 counter on each creature you control.
Katilda, Dawnhart Headwitch
Legendary Creature - Human Warlock
Protection from Werewolves
Human creatures you control have "T: Add one mana of any of this creature's colors."
4GW, T: Put a +1/+1 counter on each creature you control.
Move over Reveillark???
Sigardian Savior
Incredibly powerful, and while I'm disappointed it's a cast trigger instead of ETB because I'm a degenerate, this sets hits keep coming with alarming speed. No, I'm not going to replace Reveillark with this, which lets you do all kinds of silly things the angel could never dream of, but my white 5 drops are getting pretty thick with recursion effects!
Sigardian Savior
Incredibly powerful, and while I'm disappointed it's a cast trigger instead of ETB because I'm a degenerate, this sets hits keep coming with alarming speed. No, I'm not going to replace Reveillark with this, which lets you do all kinds of silly things the angel could never dream of, but my white 5 drops are getting pretty thick with recursion effects!
It's still an ETB, but it needs you to have cast it. It's kind of semantics, but still an important difference for counterspells.
It is also CMC 2, not power 2, which is a pretty big difference. There are some cards that benefit from it saying CMC, and others that really benefit from the power wording. For many cubes I think a valuable include over Reveillark, if you are less looking to do combo shenanigans and more want a top end for Wx aggressive decks as a way to rebuild a board after a wrath or pump up a board with up to 3 bodies to mount a finishing offensive. Nice!
I think Reveillark is significantly more powerful.
What makes Reveillark so great is that it constantly brings threats into the table. It's a 4/3 flyer on itself but, if you kill it, it brings two more threats to the table. Worse of all, it may bring back Eternal Witness, which will return the Reveillark to play the next turn. It's a highly recursive creature and hard to deal with.
Compare what happens if you play either creature and your opponent wraths the board. With Reveillark, he's in as much of a pickle as before. With Sigardian Savoiur he is probably ahead.
What makes Reveillark so great is that it constantly brings threats into the table. It's a 4/3 flyer on itself but, if you kill it, it brings two more threats to the table. Worse of all, it may bring back Eternal Witness, which will return the Reveillark to play the next turn. It's a highly recursive creature and hard to deal with.
Compare what happens if you play either creature and your opponent wraths the board. With Reveillark, he's in as much of a pickle as before. With Sigardian Savoiur he is probably ahead.
As I noted above, Savior is more powerful after a wrath. bringing potentially 9 power to the board in one go (2 mana 3/1's or similar).
Already posted TGT. Second card of mine you've double posted lol.
Running a slightly nerfed Reveilark is probably fine if you want slightly lower power
Not quite sure if you link me because I love durdly graveyard value piles, or because you think this card is pushed and I would rage about it tbh.
i like Eric’s analysis of the new Lark. i’m not really in the market for these in my current cube but it’s a really solid and “White” ability that i like having more of for magic formats in general. good card.
I think Slogurk, the Overslime is too texty and a bit too complex (with what it does with its text) for how interesting I find the card. It is going to be a pass for me unless I switch to land-focused builds.
Freaking amazing. I should have known that trying to publish a cube during spoiler season would be rough, but damn.
Rem is a nice upgrade over Skyknight Legionnaire, a card that's near and dear to my heart, without being too grossly pushed. Solid include.
Teferi is as Teferi always is: probably broken, but the fact that he doesn't actually remove cards is a big plus for me. I've been testing out Niko Aris, and they just haven't done much, unfortunately, which is a shame because a) I love the concept of a UW tempo walker working well with Ninjas and flicker and b) representation is always great.
Edit: I love how in Teferi's design article the author explicitly calls out how he was built to be good in cube Probably not ours, but cute nonetheless!
Rem is a nice upgrade over Skyknight Legionnaire, a card that's near and dear to my heart, without being too grossly pushed. Solid include.
Teferi is as Teferi always is: probably broken, but the fact that he doesn't actually remove cards is a big plus for me. I've been testing out Niko Aris, and they just haven't done much, unfortunately, which is a shame because a) I love the concept of a UW tempo walker working well with Ninjas and flicker and b) representation is always great.
Edit: I love how in Teferi's design article the author explicitly calls out how he was built to be good in cube
Probably not ours, but cute nonetheless!Attachments
Rem is NASTY if you’re on damage based sweepers holy crap
I have a strong preference for Reveillark for the reasons you discussed and more, but I don't think it's significantly more powerful. This is a minor point but hear me out.
Assuming reasonable parity in the graveyard, the scenarios where Reveillark is absolutely better are where 1) either player casts a wrath, 2) your opponent uses non-exiling removal to not die from your flying elemental, 3) your opponent has a flying blocker, or, most importantly, 4) you have creatures in your yard with misleadingly low power in the graveyard that let you "cheat", like a Mulldrifter, Siege-Gang Commander, Kalonian Hydra, or my favorite combo, Karmic Guide.
To me, Sigardian Savior is the better card when you're 1) behind on board, 2) you need to push through damage next turn to clinch the game, 3) your opponent has a Path/Swords/Settle/etc. to deal with your flying threat.
These scenarios where the Savior is better are less frequent but pretty important (especially stabilizing the board ASAP), but we're also talking about a hypothetical situation with a fully stocked graveyard, and this is where my biggest point of consideration comes up. Because the typical cube has many more 2-drops than it has 2-power cards, getting full value from Sigardian Savior is simply going to happen more often. To this point, in my 720 list, there are 364 creatures with CMC 2 or less compared to just 201 creatures with power 2 or less. The cards that technically meet one of those requirements requirements but will fizzle will fizzle in either case, such as with Hangarback Walker, so they've been left in those counts for convenience's sake.
For Reveillark, in 77 out of those 201, you get to "cheat" on mana relatively speaking (about 1/3 of the time), which is excellent for sure, but the scenarios where you're going to eke out the full value of bringing back two creatures with your white 5-drop is going to happen much more with the Savior when they make up 80% more of a cube list. This may not be true for your cube and is somewhat self-corrected by drafting/deckbuilding accordingly, but it's a pretty staggering difference in the possible pieces you can use imo, and more and more of white's premiere 2-drops are receiving a third point of power, as seen with two hotly discussed MID spoilers.
From this, I would argue Reveillark has a higher ceiling but a lower floor, and maybe even a lower average case scenario. It's without a doubt more interesting, and the larger point is somewhat moot because I think cubes that run one of these cards will benefit from running both, given enough space, but I enjoyed this thought exercise and hope you did too.
Personally, I'm most happy about Sigardian Savior because it gives me the best possible excuse to cut pet card holdout Return to the Ranks, which is only run in 443 cubes on CubeCobra for good reason; even I have never successfully played it in my own cube.
yeah i can see me running this
