Loving all the takeaways about this set, and agreed at how rich it is for a lot of different archetypes in cubes of all sorts of power levels. I was wondering though, as we approach the final day of spoilers, are we going to have a separate thread for "testing and includes?" as we have for the last few sets, or just share them here?
Sets (MID) Innistrad: Midnight Hunt
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Make it! You mentioned it first, so I think that means you have first dibs.
That’s why I said ‘to me’
I did not state that the cards would not be interesting to everyone.
I am lukewarm on this set so far as well. Stats seem to be a little pushed, but they don't seem to let one cheat on mana by discarding a card with a very efficient flashback/disturb cost. We also have a keyword I'm excluding with daybound. Also, where are the investigate cards? Do far there is one card I really want, that looting disturb guy, and even there I would wish lesser stats on the front side and maybe a second point of toughness on the back side.
Oh man I was convinced that costed 3
Name's too long to make it three mana. Hmm... I guess we'll make it two mana!
Kind of blown away that we get three unbelievable playables all at once this late in the season (from this Polygon article):
Cathartic Pyre is the second coming of Abrade, baby!! Bolt or rummage 2, doesn't matter, we've got instant speed going! Will be used as a burn spell probably 85%+ of the time but I'd much rather run this than most 2-mana 3-damage spells for the flexibility, even if it does miss the face.
Memory Deluge is Dig Through Time's baby sister with Flashback (and the Flashback version is literally just Dig!!!) - I can't believe how much I love this card, its floor is better than the Behold the Multiverse effects that many of us run at least one of, and again, it's got FLASHBACK. Instant inclusion for me, I can scarcely believe it.
The Meathook Massacre is maybe the most marginal of them, but I think the combination of Black Sun's Zenith with Fumigate is better than the sum of its parts, particularly for those of us who love black devotion / like to run Gray Merchant of Asphodel. This is maybe the 4th best black board wipe after Damnation, Toxic Deluge, and Living Death (if you want to count that), but I certainly prefer it to Languish, which I know a lot of us run. Worst case, it's a 2-mana semi-Blood Artist that's harder to remove, and even the lightest aristocrat-themes will make great use of this scalable sweeper.
Cathartic Pyre is the second coming of Abrade, baby!! Bolt or rummage 2, doesn't matter, we've got instant speed going! Will be used as a burn spell probably 85%+ of the time but I'd much rather run this than most 2-mana 3-damage spells for the flexibility, even if it does miss the face.
Memory Deluge is Dig Through Time's baby sister with Flashback (and the Flashback version is literally just Dig!!!) - I can't believe how much I love this card, its floor is better than the Behold the Multiverse effects that many of us run at least one of, and again, it's got FLASHBACK. Instant inclusion for me, I can scarcely believe it.
The Meathook Massacre is maybe the most marginal of them, but I think the combination of Black Sun's Zenith with Fumigate is better than the sum of its parts, particularly for those of us who love black devotion / like to run Gray Merchant of Asphodel. This is maybe the 4th best black board wipe after Damnation, Toxic Deluge, and Living Death (if you want to count that), but I certainly prefer it to Languish, which I know a lot of us run. Worst case, it's a 2-mana semi-Blood Artist that's harder to remove, and even the lightest aristocrat-themes will make great use of this scalable sweeper.
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This seems... really fair? If you're running Heroic then it's a cool pickup for sure. I don't think I like this better than my boy Rem, but its sure going to be fun to throw this at even a relatively small body and totally swing the game. The only thing this doesn't grant is flying, so be careful--from the art I'd have sworn it did. This thing is great at breaking board stalls without demanding that it end the game right then and there, and the flashback helps keep it from being a total dud even if they bolt your critter in response. I'm a fan!
Edit: so long as it hits a creature, you're guaranteed the following: a chunk of life gained (4+, assuming you're putting on your biggest creature), some number of dead critters on Villain's side of the board (can't chump because of trample!), and no loss in defensive positioning due to vigilance and indestructible. And then you can do it again. If you're not running too much instant-speed removal, this seems sweet, and even if you are, this demands two of them, likely back-to-back, and a 2-for-1 against a reactive deck is a win in my book.
This seems... really fair? If you're running Heroic then it's a cool pickup for sure. I don't think I like this better than my boy Rem, but its sure going to be fun to throw this at even a relatively small body and totally swing the game. The only thing this doesn't grant is flying, so be careful--from the art I'd have sworn it did. This thing is great at breaking board stalls without demanding that it end the game right then and there, and the flashback helps keep it from being a total dud even if they bolt your critter in response. I'm a fan!
Edit: so long as it hits a creature, you're guaranteed the following: a chunk of life gained (4+, assuming you're putting on your biggest creature), some number of dead critters on Villain's side of the board (can't chump because of trample!), and no loss in defensive positioning due to vigilance and indestructible. And then you can do it again. If you're not running too much instant-speed removal, this seems sweet, and even if you are, this demands two of them, likely back-to-back, and a 2-for-1 against a reactive deck is a win in my book.
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Devil tokens are my favorite tokens. <3
Today's spoilers have my head spinning a little bit. This set is probably going to shake up my cube more than MH2
With you here. This set is giving me heart palpitations. In the good way.
I seriously love this card, and not just from the flavor POV -- I think I've found my new favorite red "wrath" for cube...sorry Rolling Earthquake.
Thats a spicy sac outlet. And let's you sac any nonland as well.
So is anyone else really disappointed with Disturb? And not because the macinic isn't that good or the individual cards don't get there but because it's clearly just the draft mechanic for UW. I really wish Disturb was a bigger part of the set. I'd like to see more Disturb creatures at higher rarity and in all five colours.
I guess the positive is that double faced cards are kind of annoying, so at least I'm not having to include a load more with my MID update.
I guess the positive is that double faced cards are kind of annoying, so at least I'm not having to include a load more with my MID update.
This might actually be a good FoF variant!
Now that the variant card image gallery is up to date, we can see the English version of this card, and it's not 50 pixels tall!
If you're playing with Daybound/Nightbound cards (as I unfortunately am), this is a solid pick. It's a nice Thrashing Brontodon effect at two MV, and it's not hard to imagine this as a mono-green Trygon Predator no small amount of the time. Still trying to find the right cut for this, but I imagine it'll make it in to my 720, as I've removed more of the artifact hate from my green creature lineup than I probably should have.
I was really hoping for more pushed Disturb cards like we saw other areas of the set pushed, it's a neat GY mechanic and much cleaner than the "make it a 4/4 zombie token you would ideally have a dedicated token for" that happened with Eternalize. Maybe one of these final spoilers will come through?
MH2 had more cards that were targeted for modern, and more cards that really aren't within the right power band for most Cubes here than the original Modern Horizons. This set is mostly flashback graveyard value in the middle of the power band, which fits very well with most Cubes here.
I'm going to make one once the full spoiler is live.