Do you remember the times WotC wouldn't just push the stats a little more than they should be to create a mythic rare? I don't want Walking Corpse to be something special again, but I don't want to see these horrible, lazy mythic designs anymore.
Sets (MID) Innistrad: Midnight Hunt
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Do you remember the times WotC wouldn't just push the stats a little more than they should be to create a mythic rare? I don't want Walking Corpse to be something special again, but I don't want to see these horrible, lazy mythic designs anymore.
For me the first thing I thought of when I saw it was playing it in something like RB Aggro with Gravecrawler and growing Champion of the Perished either on curve by 1 or by 3 power off the trigger later in game. I like that it's not actual kicker which can lead to some cool corner case scenarios with other cards that let you put it into play. Also can provide the 3 bodies for a Cryptbreaker activation.
Yes, I do.
I believe this is the one you are talking about:
https://armlx.blogspot.com/2019/01/limited-design-32-for-three-is-place-to.html
The 2/3 deathtoucher is a little too much for me (new tokens, defensive body, counters and lengthy card), but I do love the white one as I just cut Leonin Lightscribe and am in the market for an anthem effect!
Chris Taylor
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Also you can proliferate our pushed spirit buddy!
I'm in
I'm in
It's not the 5 mana mode that I'm worried about.
that dragon makes me very happy
I'm really digging this cycle! I love the fact that the trigger happens upon entering the battlefield and isn't an upfront cost. It makes these cards much better against countermagic, especially taxing effects like Mana Leak. I like that WOTC has been making these pushed cycles of cheap constructed cards recently, such as Modern Horizons 2’s Elemental Incarnations. The adversaries continue this trend, and I hope it continues into the future.
Wow this is exactly what White decks need. A good 1-drop with an excellent card advantage ability? Sign me up!
Man they're just tossing phasing of all things as a one-off mechanic in the set. Unless there's going to be more phasing we haven't seen yet. No reminder text either, I had to pull out a Teferi's Protection to even remember how it works.
Chris Taylor
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I think phasing is now...Decidious? they can use it at any time but it doesn't always show up.
If you think of it like flicker except ETB/LTB's don't trigger, you've got 99% of it
If you think of it like flicker except ETB/LTB's don't trigger, you've got 99% of it
Why do I want to agree with both of you at the same time, even though your statements are somewhat contradictory?
Onderzeeboot
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I mean, it's optional, which makes this less awkard in some cases, but...
+1 power, graveyard hate, repeated etb trigger shenanigans, and it sees very little play. I'm expecting Loyal Griff to be disappointing.
+1 power, graveyard hate, repeated etb trigger shenanigans, and it sees very little play. I'm expecting Loyal Griff to be disappointing.
Mine is "explaining" why the card isn't written the way ravnic desires, so it is a bit contradictory, yes.
I agree with you as a fellow cube enthusiast, but I'm a little hesitant to say it's good for the constructed environments. I fear a standard environment where if you are playing a 2-drop creature there is only one choice (and it's at mythic rarity). But I don't play standard, so what do I know...
It was just a bad joke on my part. I like your flavor interpretation that clearly explains the design choice. At the same time I really wanted it to say permanent. As Onderzeeboot points out similar cards don't see a lot of play, so a version that said permanent would have been nice to try out.
Makes me a little nervous. A lot of green decks will be able top rip 90%+ of their deck off the top. When they hit creatures, it will reinforce Coven, too.
I think not being an asshole constantly is the only rule lol.
Lifelink makes it an issue for aggro, which I don't like. One toughness makes it vulnerable for most of the game, which I do like. Pushed? A little. Scales in an interesting way? Yeah. GRBS? Don't think so.
Wish the black one was a 2/2 lol.
I'd play it as sorcery. The life gain is relevant for me, but countering a reanimation spell is too harsh for what a fragile deck that already is.
Always worrisome for non powermax to see a 4-5 MV mythic dragon. This is actually awesome. Solid stats, for sure, but nothing overwhelming. The first trigger is just awesome. The second one is a little annoying, like a late Flametongue, but not likely to go too nuts unless you worked for it.
Needs reminder text on Evoke for my crew :'(
What a day so far!
Is it just me, or the Adversaries look Standard playable but will likely drop in price when they rotate? Don't seem Modern playable, but I'm out of touch with Constructed.
ooh yes. i do like this. i think it’s a great partner for tireless provisioner, but tireless tracker tracker eats the slot handily if she’s in your power band.
Sweet card, I'm all for more incidental artifacts tied to playable bodies to help flesh out synergies even further. Human typing to synergize with Champion of the Parish and Thalia's Lieutenant, generates some card advantage with Clues, and has decent stats for its cost as a 4/3 Vigilance. Plays well with blink effects ala Teleportation Circle and Soulherder, is a three drop right on curve fitting into both Birthing Pod and Collected Company decks, and even has the base two power for something like Reveillark recursion.
This is exactly the kind of "dense" card that makes me excited as a cube designer, great design!
This is exactly the kind of "dense" card that makes me excited as a cube designer, great design!
For the last two years or so, certainly since the pandemic, Standard playability has been pretty secondary in terms of determining price to EDH, and often times, casual constructed appeal is also more important, so I don't anticipate the Adversaries to be that pricey outside of the first two weeks of release unless a format like Modern starts taking to them or they do have some slick Commander tech I haven't figured out yet.
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Re: Stonecloaker, oh how I adore that card. Lasted 8 years in my cube! One of the most devastating replacements, but pretty necessary with how stacked white's 3-drops can be.
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Briarbridge Tracker seems like a less interesting Jadelight Ranger that can't really keep up with most green 3-drops these days, butI like the art. This set's been excellent on an artwork front with only a few notable exceptions.
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EDIT: Spectral Adversary has got me torn -- I love the play patterns available with the card, this cycle has shown a kind of modal play I adore in my cube and makes for more interesting games of magic on average. However! The lack of reminder text for phasing, even on the standard version of the card, is killing me. Even in EDH games I too often see phasing not terribly well known/understood, or worse, over-explained. In my ongoing quest to maximize fun and interesting gameplay while maintaining some sort of ceiling on complexity at a meta-level and/or at the draft stage, I'm just not sure I can justify it. We'll see!
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i agree, phasing is one of those mechanics i just don’t care to have to think about on cube night. so far the black and blue Adversaries have been easy ignores for me despite their lovely power level.
and on that note, i have to say, despite the fact i have zero interest in DFCs, night/daybound, or even Decayed tokens, this is already a set that’s giving me plenty of cards to consider. what a killer set!
and on that note, i have to say, despite the fact i have zero interest in DFCs, night/daybound, or even Decayed tokens, this is already a set that’s giving me plenty of cards to consider. what a killer set!